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mereman
06-26-2010, 10:21 PM
Just playing (badly) as Sussex in a FC match and have noticed that Derby have been given a bowling point. We have lost 2 wkts with another player retired hurt.

As an aside it seems that every time one of my players gets hit they are out for a few weeks, but we hit an opponent they just shake it off.

Sorry if this has been noted but I'm to old and drunk to check the forum posts:D

BIGBANG
06-27-2010, 08:18 PM
my best players injured many times
now i give physio to my best players
i will also advice u to give physio to ur good players:)

mereman
06-27-2010, 08:27 PM
With my team I haven't got a best player:p

Seriously good idea thanks I'll try it:)

halleluigah
06-28-2010, 01:04 AM
With my team I haven't got a best player:p

Seriously good idea thanks I'll try it:)

if there is no best player than do that to most useful players

BIGBANG
06-28-2010, 01:39 AM
halleluigah is right
just give physio to ur useful players;)

Batista_Bomb
07-14-2010, 03:30 PM
Big bang is right
Physio is one of the main thing that is need to your players
So Giving physio to your best players so that they did'nt injured

MichaelFinn
07-14-2010, 06:12 PM
Fitness is very important to every player in any sports and Physio is one thing that increases the fitness in this game.

mereman
07-14-2010, 09:45 PM
My bug was not that i was losing player to lack of fitness. But that when a player retired hurt batting the bonus point was given. I may well be wrong but I didn't think bowling points were awarded for hurting players.

halleluigah
07-15-2010, 01:10 AM
My bug was not that i was losing player to lack of fitness. But that when a player retired hurt batting the bonus point was given. I may well be wrong but I didn't think bowling points were awarded for hurting players.
who goets the bonus point?

Phylos Fett
07-15-2010, 09:35 AM
who goets the bonus point?

The bowling team - an injury counts as a wicket, for some reason...

Sureshot
07-19-2010, 12:06 PM
Yup, it's a bug that has been noted and will most likely be resolved for the patch we are working on.

enigma
07-26-2010, 03:38 PM
As an aside it seems that every time one of my players gets hit they are out for a few weeks, but we hit an opponent they just shake it off.

No, we can hurt computer's players as well,my Lancs' Sajid Mahmood just hit computer's Suppiah from Somerset, he was 79 & had to leave the field :D You should get some RF bowlers next season to take your revenge on the computer ;)

enigma
07-26-2010, 03:50 PM
I just realized that I've also received a bonus point, it's showing 4 points for Lancs even though Somerset are 205-2 & I'd only scored 345, Suppiah's retired hurt is being counted as a wicket.

Imager36
07-26-2010, 05:17 PM
Yeah, that is how it works. Otherwise, if you injured 2 opponent players in their first innings, you would miss out on a bonus point.

enigma
07-26-2010, 05:24 PM
Yeah, that is how it works. Otherwise, if you injured 2 opponent players in their first innings, you would miss out on a bonus point.

You mean that's how it works in the REAL county championship? But as you can see, Sureshot thinks it's a bug. :confused: Your point about missing out on the points is valid though.

Imager36
07-26-2010, 06:22 PM
I've just had a look at the laws, and it seems to be with me on this one.

For the avoidance of doubt, “wickets taken” shall relate exclusively to batsmen dismissed under Laws 30 to 39 inclusive and to batsmen retired out.

enigma
07-26-2010, 07:10 PM
I've just had a look at the laws, and it seems to be with me on this one.

Nice work. No need to fix it then. :)

Sureshot
07-30-2010, 04:09 PM
Retired out and retired hurt are two different things. Retired out happens only in tour matches (irl) really. A batsman can return from being retired hurt (though this is flawed in game), but he can't from being retired out.

Retired hurt is not a mode of dismissal, as in laws 30-39 and retired out, which are, so you shouldn't get a bowling point for say 2 out and 1 retired hurt.

enigma
07-30-2010, 05:47 PM
Retired out and retired hurt are two different things. Retired out happens only in tour matches (irl) really. A batsman can return from being retired hurt (though this is flawed in game), but he can't from being retired out.

Retired hurt is not a mode of dismissal, as in laws 30-39 and retired out, which are, so you shouldn't get a bowling point for say 2 out and 1 retired hurt.

To set the record straight, I think ICC should incorporate into their game whatever ruling the real counties follow & I'm sure you guys always strive for realism in your game but talking of real life, don't you think this situation can be manipulated by certain teams to gain an advantage at the end of the season where every point counts for eg. a couple of bunnies (McGrath, Walsh types) who are unlikely to add too many runs purposely getting hit & faking the seriousness of it or faking an internal illness & retiring & thereby avoiding the opposition a valuable bonus point?

In my opinion, batsman has the opportunity to return to the crease before the innings gets over & if he doesn't make use of it then there's no reason why the opposition should be penalized for it. As it is, umpires are allowed to warn bowlers for hostile bowling I think so most likely the batsman retiring is at fault for either his inability to play perfectly legal bowling or his ill-health & neither should be the concern of the opposition & they should get the point if the batsman doesn't avail his chance to return whilst there's time.

Sureshot
08-03-2010, 09:24 AM
I think there are measures in place which would stop a team from cheating in such a way in real life. Considering it is the first innings only, would it really be beneficial for a team to take a bowler out of being able to bowl in the oppo's second innings for that one point, when they could be a part of taking a win for the team?