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Mongrel

07-04-2008, 09:50 AM

There really shouldn't be a reason to not have a player editor - lots of games have online versions and also data editors. It certainly adds the playability and is the main reason why I still bust out ICC2002 a lot because of the ability to edit stats and players.

I'd also like to see the domestic structures expanded. Not necessarily every domestic league; but it'd be great to expand to at least Australia and possibly RSA/India (I don't know much about them, but I'd imagine they'd have some appeal).

In any event, the overseas player structure is something that needs to be altered somewhat. In English county cricket, when an overseas player becomes unavailable they can pick replacements. Wouldn't mind seeing the ability to negotiate with elligible players to become Kolpaks and vice-versa (say RSA negotiating with Friedel de Wet to again become elligible for international selection). I don't understand the complete ins-and-outs of the Kolpak ruling, but it would add another element if introduced.

Possibly separate statistics for FC and List A cricket? Someone like Michael Vaughan who is a gem of a first class player and a poor limited over cricketer could be represented more realistically. The stats would generally be very similar, but in regens you could get the odd players who was a sensational one day player and a poor first class player and vice versa. Also the option of a mental block where someone might dominate at first class level and not be able to hack it in the international arena (i.e. Graeme Hick, Mark Ramprakash and Michael Bevan in tests)? Also, in an attempt to differentiate between the two forms of the game, I'd love to see different player statuses being applied to each version. Someone like Adam Gilchrist is an ODI opener but not a test opener - same as Luke Ronchi. In addition, Andrew Symonds bowls off-spin in ODIs and mediums in test cricket.

Also, one feature which couldn't be difficult to implement would be international retirements. Someone like Justin Langer, who still plays domestic cricket but not international cricket, will still play for Australia as there is no way to deal with this.

Could there be an option to take on international management but still simulate the leagues around the world? So I can become England manager and not take on a county - but still see county results? And/or Australian domestic if they were added?

Also, it would be good to see a realistic amount of domestic games played. In Australia, you can really only play a maximum of 10 FC and 10 List A games in a season - but you tend to see them play upwards of twenty of both.

A couple of smaller issues which could do with fixing:

Domestic strike rates. Its a small point but its frustrating to see all players strike at fifty in FC and OD cricket when running the game as an international manager.
Players actually playing domestic T20 cricket. Its been an issue since the introduction of T20 to the game, and will hopefully be ironed out in the next version.
Something I suggested in the other thread was the option of part-time openers in much the same way you have part-time 'keepers. Therefore if an opener goes down injured mid-match - a part-time opener could open instead of the #3? Or you could designate back up opening batsman in the team selection screen in the event of an injury.

Its good to see that you are looking to make significant changes to the game - and if there is any help you need with stats or whatever to lighten the workload, I'm happy to help. :)

Chris Child

07-04-2008, 12:43 PM

Oops - meant to post this reply here...

In addition:
- Vice captain idea is nice
- Scenario editor - any more ideas in this area?
- New leagues and background matches etc. is being discussed - lots of issues with licensing etc, but it on the list.

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This is great. Really appreciate the ideas here.

Just to address one for now that seems to be generating some debate.

Player abilities - I've always said that you shouldn't be able to see these because you don't get that sort of information in real life. Half the fun of Cricket Captain is working out who your best players are. If you could just read off their abilities it would remove all that guess work and make the game pretty dull. Players have individual abilities for all sorts of things internally (such as test, ODI, one day etc.) and you get an impression of some of their strengths and weaknesses. Everything else you can get by watching the players play - just as you would in real life. Take note of the play & miss percentage; watch where they score their runs. Obviously it would be easy to make these all visible, but where's the fun in that? Would England have picked Rampracash for years if they knew he'd always freeze when he was playing a test match? I guess it's still debateable whether he's over that - the computer seems to want to give him a run this year...

Editor - this is related to the above. If you can see players’ abilities in the editor then that's the intrigue gone again. Also - the challenge is to take what you have and build them up through coaching etc. I think you'd get bored of 100% players pretty quickly and not play again. There is obviously scope for a limited editor which wouldn't ruin this (or the on-line game) and we've always had it on a "wish list". I can see a use for limited editors obviously, but we always have a limited budget for features and it's never quite hit my top priority.

There are lots of other points in this thread and they're all going on the "wish list".

MarksNotts

07-04-2008, 01:05 PM

I remember a few years ago in one of the old versions when you had a pre season game against a university side, i would love to see this back, because as well as being realistic it also gives you an idea of whos in form and whos not before the first county game, as well as trying out youngsters ina first class conditions and so as to be able to allocate coaching points accordingly, perhaps a one day game and a 3 day game against a minor county or a university team.

GrahamB

07-04-2008, 07:27 PM

I'd like to see test series with either three tests or five tests, not these horrible two test series that occur. :D

Blocky

07-04-2008, 10:32 PM

Hi Chris

Thanks for taking time to answer our points! Very impressed by that and I'm glad that I've been buying this game since I first rented it out on Playstation many many years ago!

Scenario Editor - Being able to recreate the Windies/Aussie series with the tied match, or perhaps being able to choose an ATG England to play ATG Australia in a 5 match series, just allows us to go beyond the county/international game.

Player Editor/Revealing Player stats - you could keep intangibles unseen, things like how hard it is to motivate them but my point is this, I've captained and coached a few teams in my time and I know where my players are at, I know in the nets where they are improving and how good their game is becoming in certain areas and can apply technique coaching to areas that aren't.

The other legitimate reason for roster editing and revealing player stats is in times of database changes. I don't think I've ever seen Shane Bond do well in a season in your game, in fact, your game doesn't even think he's worthy of selection!

Tim Southee seems to be the new version of what Chris Martin was in games before, a pie chucker who the opposition spank around.

Brendan McCullum seems to think scoring 40 off of 120 is "normal" for him.

Things like this, little tweaks that you guys won't get around to because your game is HUGE compared to those of us who play our own countries. It also means we can share our rosters, etc... not to mention the aforementioned super player.

Other simulators have this ability and the ability to mask players strengths and weaknesses if the player prefers that. I understand that you may have reservations due to the online content of your game, with players being able to know exactly what stats their team has when playing another online player, but the trade off in playability and expansion is huge.

Also means the community can assist in database upgrades.

Simbazz

07-05-2008, 12:05 AM

Things like this, little tweaks that you guys won't get around to because your game is HUGE compared to those of us who play our own countries. It also means we can share our rosters, etc... not to mention the aforementioned super player.

This is an amazingly good comment. I support Hampshire and could get the stats and player types correct, as, as most fans i believe i'm somewhat of an expert ;) When i'm not, but we're fans! If i could correct Hampshire, someone could do the same for thier county and so on! It would mean the game is up to date and correct within a matter of weeks!

muhammad saad

07-05-2008, 08:46 PM

We all know that there are lack of allrounders who cannt bowl the real reason behind this is that the game automatically distributes the overs among the best 4 bowlers in the team when we skips a match and if we played an allrounder as our fifth bowler he probably end up bowling 2 or 3 overs without any wkt in 4 day game. The solution is easy we should have the option to to give orders which bowler should bowl more/less while skipping a match.

like

Harmison = we set 15%
Broad = 20%
Flintoff =20%
Panesar =30%
Collingwood 15%

Total =100%

In this way the game will automatically distributes the overs with above settings ,This will be the excellent edition to the game as this will really sort out the allrounder issue and this we can also help our bowling lineup by creating an batting allrounder (By giving particular batsman 15-20% probability to bowl in every 4 day game)

muhammad saad

07-05-2008, 09:17 PM

Chris I agree with you on the editor and attributes part ,but you should introduce text based awareness system which tells you that your particular bowler has learn inswinging yorker ,off cutter or like your particular batsman has improved against spin bowling , These types of short messages will do huge to the player improvement system.

Simbazz

07-05-2008, 10:15 PM

This is the best idea i've read!

If this is put into the game, then it'll be soooo much better. It means that you can actually skip the games, and be in charge. You could also have something in a ODI game, like set 5 bowlers and have something like "IF any one bowlers goes for more than a certain number of runs Bowler 6 is to come on,"

Jim

07-05-2008, 10:16 PM

Would be nice if we actually could control the youth teams, like if you had either just one youth team of like 15 or so players, or a couple of them maybe under 21s and under 19s? I know a lot of people including me like to get younger people in the team in manager games and develop them. At the moment apart from the usualy crap youngers you get sent through randomly there are hardly any to find when your renewing contracts and things.

Also would be nice to see how fast your bowlers are bowling, dont know if this would be a hard feature to add though?

Thers one more thing which I must say I think should of been in the game since the very beggining it seems so obvious... The fielding in the game is to be honest pretty awfull, if proffesionals dropped as many easy catches as they do in the game then well they wouldnt last very long as a proffesional! Would be good to see some fielding coaching as well as the batting and bowling.

Just like to say though I completely agree with whoever it was that said there should be academy pre-season friendlies, would be good for testing out the youth players, I also agree that the players attributes should be shown like in football manager games, I think it just would add so much more to the game,
Cheers

muhammad saad

07-05-2008, 10:49 PM

Mongrel

07-06-2008, 04:07 AM

Player abilities - I've always said that you shouldn't be able to see these because you don't get that sort of information in real life. Half the fun of Cricket Captain is working out who your best players are. If you could just read off their abilities it would remove all that guess work and make the game pretty dull. Players have individual abilities for all sorts of things internally (such as test, ODI, one day etc.) and you get an impression of some of their strengths and weaknesses. Everything else you can get by watching the players play - just as you would in real life. Take note of the play & miss percentage; watch where they score their runs. Obviously it would be easy to make these all visible, but where's the fun in that? Would England have picked Rampracash for years if they knew he'd always freeze when he was playing a test match? I guess it's still debateable whether he's over that - the computer seems to want to give him a run this year...

I agree that it takes away from the game to be able to see attributes - but I'd love for those attributes to be present (if they aren't already).

Editor - this is related to the above. If you can see players’ abilities in the editor then that's the intrigue gone again. Also - the challenge is to take what you have and build them up through coaching etc. I think you'd get bored of 100% players pretty quickly and not play again. There is obviously scope for a limited editor which wouldn't ruin this (or the on-line game) and we've always had it on a "wish list". I can see a use for limited editors obviously, but we always have a limited budget for features and it's never quite hit my top priority.

This I can't agree with. I don't particularly want an editor to see attributes - I'd want an editor to add even more playability to the game. If an editor ruins the "intrigue" for someone then they don't use it or simply use the database someone else has made. For someone like me, who picks people based on merit regardless of skill, I'd love the ability to use a data editor to update stats which I think are wrong or even be able to make historical teams - how great would it be to have the Windies of the 80s in today's cricket and see how they go?

Forgive me for being cynical, but maybe the lack of editor so far is a result of the fact ICC06 and Ashes Edition were essentially data updates. You only have to look at the effect releasing the code had on ICC2002 - even a bug ridden editor like Magpie still spawns updates to the database today.

And for the online issue - maybe you could implement something like FIFA where only the databases released by CT can be used online? Something to think about.

Wildwil

07-06-2008, 09:47 AM

Good idea there. Also on another note Chris are you guys going to release a database update or not?

Agent47

07-06-2008, 11:48 AM

Ok I dont want to see the attributes for the time being. But I do want to see some sort of green and red arrows in the coaching and physio screen. The green arrow should show that the player's technique training is having good effect. The red arrow should show when a player has stopped responding to technique training. This is a minor but a much needed feature in this game as people are still debating about when the technique training should be stopped.

MarksNotts

07-06-2008, 11:56 AM

Hi Agent,
Regarding the technique question, Chris has answered, if you look at the "questions for Chris" thread the answer is in there.

Agent47

07-06-2008, 12:01 PM

Thanks I read it after I saw your post. But this is a feature request thread. So I wanted to help the other fans of the series who dont use these forums.

MarksNotts

07-06-2008, 12:05 PM

Agreed mate, the arrows would make a good addition.

joebaines

07-06-2008, 12:22 PM

I think a good new feature for ICC 2009 would be to be able to offer short-term contracts just for certain competitions or months of the county season. E.g Surrey signed Chris Lewis just for the 20/20 cup as did Nottinghamshire sign Chris Cairns for the same reason. Also counties should be able to sign a replacement overseas player during the season if they lose there overseas player while he is playing for his country.

Does anyone think this is a good idea? :)

Agent47

07-06-2008, 03:45 PM

Sure thats a good idea. Imagine the oppurtinities it creates for someone like me who uses artmoney :p. I am playing as Lancashire and I am allowed to sign only one overseas player compared to two in the last version. Is this normal or is it a bug?

Glamorgan

07-06-2008, 04:49 PM

Not sure if county caps are still given to new players, how about having an option of awarding county caps, especially if you are looking to promote youth team player to your full squad.

Mongrel

07-06-2008, 05:34 PM

russell

07-06-2008, 05:48 PM

The things i feel should be added are:
-Monthly or weekly updates to keep the players in touch with real life as you want it to be realistic, this could easily be done as there are many people on here from most counties so you could get someone who knows a county to keep you informed of infomation on players from their county.
-An editor if the above could not be possible to the player can update the team they are using to make the game correct to them.
-Graphic changes- basically making it easier to change the graphics in the game.
-Kits making it so that the kits of each county were easier to edit with the the county logo or something close to it if licences are a problem make it so the player can change it.

thanks.

Yorks13

07-06-2008, 10:21 PM

I really like the idea of pre-season games against Uni teams, I don´t like the idea that player attributes should be included as choosing your team based on knowledge of players and performances is a great aspect. I would really like to see the option of signing a new overseas player mid-way through the season if your curent player either goes away on Int. Duty or gets a long term injury (4 or more weeks) because that is very frustrating when it happens. I also think that if you were able to set up a relationship with an overseas team from India, SA, AUS etc. (would not have to be named for licensing reasons) it would be very good as for a certain fee per year you could send 2-3 players to that team so that they could gain experience, this would be a great way of developing youth players without having to play them in your team it would also be a very easy to integrate into the game and so as to not make it very easy to get your younger players better, you would have to pay more for different teams which would then result in them gaining more experience and getting better than they would if you payed less. I think this would be a great addition to the game and I hope you take it on board.

Cheers

muhammad saad

07-07-2008, 06:38 AM

Hey chris plz reply ,did you like the idea? or other forum members plz reply to the thread if you like this idea.

muhammad saad

07-07-2008, 06:45 AM

I think there should be a 3d net session where you can put your batsman against your best bowler(or any bowler) to see them head to head ,it would be cool to put your youth player batsman against your premier bowler to see how he played him is he ready for the first team(based on the number of misses ,edges and out) This will be the excellent edition and also not hard to implement.

jcosgrove

07-07-2008, 07:19 AM

muhammad saad

07-07-2008, 07:30 AM

Duckworth / Lewis affected one day games would be more realistic. There is never any rain affected one day games in my experience. If you look at the games in the friends provident there is always rain affected games.

When bowling medium pacers defensively in one day games I feel there should be an option to bring the keeper up to the stumps. Obviously it could increase the amont of byes but would mean chances of stumpings.

I think more emphasis should be put on 20/20. Including the champions league, IPL, world 20/20 and the stamford games.

I am also sure that powerplays are in play in friends provident games this season.

Its already there ,just choose spinners field.

Tiresias

07-07-2008, 11:26 AM

Yes, this is a fantastic idea.

Similarly, I'd also like to see some mechanism introduced which would allow players of the county & international version of the game to provide rough batting orders/selection policies etc. for their counties while they are in charge of the international side.

Sureshot

07-07-2008, 11:42 AM

jcosgrove

07-07-2008, 01:34 PM

i agree, it is very difficult - maybe we just need some rain affected one day games and maybe a rough calculation rather than exact duckworth lewis.

KentLad

07-07-2008, 03:17 PM

In brief I would like to see the following:

Additional Tournaments
- ICC Champions Trophy
- Asia Cup
- ICC World 20/20
- Under-19 World Cups
- ICC Intercontinental Cup (4 day tournament for the likes of Ireland/Canada/Scotland etc)
- ICC World Cricket League (for Ireland/Scotland etc - top 3 or 4 qualify for next World Cup)
- England Lions matches against touring teams and also an end of season tour - ideally if England coach you can select this squad also).

Other
- Name a provisional squad of 30 for tournaments like World Cups and Champions Trophy which you later cut down to 15.
- Replace injured players
- Include Australian First Class cricket as playable
- Ability to sign players on loan
- Ability to sign additional overseas players on short-term basis (eg for 20/20)
- Integration of the IPL/Stanford Tournaments - maybe not playable but some of your players may get called up for the IPL thus making them unavailable for you.
- It should be possible for Kolpak players or players from Ireland/Scotland etc to qualify for England after 4 seasons of playing over here. (I think that's the qualifying period!)
- Players like Langer/Trescothick should be retired from Internationals.
- Ability to play a career as Scotland/Ireland and other non-test playing nations.
- Allow you to pick Irish/Scottish players for the national team for the FP Trophy - plus an overseas player.
- Allow some players like Symonds to have more than 1 type of bowling
- Duckworth-Lewis (Good luck with that one though!)
- A bit more player interaction - players coming to you asking why they have been left out - could affect their form if you don't respond in the right way etc...
- Players like Billy Taylor of Hants (One-Day) or Chris Lewis (20/20) only being available for designated matches.

I realise that not all of these will be possible but I would love to see some of these included.

jcosgrove

07-07-2008, 03:32 PM

I think picking A Teams as well as full teams is a great idea. You can then test out your young players on the international stage also.

Under 19's world cup would be very good too.

I would also like to see you being able to select coaching staff and bringing in specialist bowling/batting/fielding coaches to help improve your club.

Simbazz

07-07-2008, 04:48 PM

Even if tourniments such as the 20/20 WC or Champions Trophey where not available to be put in the game due to licensing, atleast make it "easy," for us to add them ourselves! This isn't illegal! Same with earlier games and logos etc, let us edit them.

Agent47

07-07-2008, 05:53 PM

You are right.So this once again means that a database editor is an absolute must have for stat based games. If you give us an editor, you guys will have more time to improve the game as you dont have to do as many patches as of now and it lets you concentrate on implementing other important things to this game.

Simbazz

07-07-2008, 06:18 PM

The editor thing, let people ruin thier games with legends and win every game etc. just add something to online play so that edited database games cant be used! (Or atleast something like that)

Because, us proper ICC players want an editor to improve the game, not to ruin its challange.

Packer Al

07-08-2008, 09:04 AM

It would be useful to have a screen automatically updating the development of Youth Players based on perhaps a star rating system of maybe one to three stars maximum analysed by bowling/batting techniques achieved

aus5892

07-08-2008, 11:26 AM

I have a couple - in real life, pace bowling pitches (such as a green pitch) often start off good for the pacemen and then start to flatten out, making it easier for the batsmen, whereas the turn tends to get much greater for spinners on the last few days, but in the game both seem to only get better (for both types of bowlers). This is obviously the reason that teams often bowl first when it's a pitch that's good for the pacemen, but ingame this seems to have no value.

My other suggestion is a very basic one, the coin toss. In game, you always choose heads or tails, but in real life it's the away team. I'm sure that wouldn't be a hard one to fix.

waz

07-08-2008, 12:39 PM

in my opinion you should be able to give training to every member of the squad, in real life your not only restricted to train 8 players if you spend £30k on coaching or 9 if you pay £40k .... in real life everyone trains!

also coaches (batting, bowling & fielding) would be a great addition, would bring so much more to the game. and then training facilities pehaps?

physios and scouts as well?

plus i think if you failing you should be able to be fired if you dont cut the mustard...

Sureshot

07-08-2008, 02:01 PM

I quite like the idea of say, paying for coaches, rather than spending x budget on 8 or so players. Then people could choose coaches (I assume they would need viewable attributes), you could even offer players who retire the chance to be a coach?

A more sophisticated training system sounds great, especially given how training orientated current Cricket is.

Glamorgan

07-08-2008, 03:17 PM

Agree more emphasis needs to be place on fielding coaching, be it catching or just general fielding and why is it all the run outs are direct hits where as in most situations the throw is to the wicketkeeper who takes the bails off.

Sureshot

07-08-2008, 08:45 PM

According to a google search, Northants gave Boje and Rob White county caps. So yes they are still given. Merged into the requests thread.

I've merged in an older thread, which is why it now says the thread was started by Jim. It wasn't.

Will1692

07-08-2008, 09:28 PM

I would like to see the speed of each delivery shown, a calender type mode were you can arrange pre season friendlies and arrange 'team bonding' sessions. As this is a management game i think it should include things similar to football manager things, e.g. more detailed contract talks, run bonuses, pay per run for example to give player motivation to score runs. It would cost more, with better benefits for your team.
Also with coaching sessions you should be able to spend more than 50,000. if i have lots of money i may want every player to get coached. Maybe also a wicket-keeping coaching session should be invented - as you cannot make a part time keeper any better.
Maybe this is optimistic but player talks can make players have a better relationship with the manager, making them more likely to stay at the club.
More details on age-group squads should be available, for example looking at how the yorkshire academy side are doing and you should be able to decide who gets called up into the first team squad. In ICC 2008 you need a bowler for your side, and you get given 5 batsmen. The game needs to be decision based, as thats what managers and captains do, make decisions.
The ability to buy overseas players for just one competition should be allowed, to be able to have the correct style of player. e.g. an Aggressive batsmen for twenty20.
You should be able to replace overseas players if they become injured, if its along injury, in real life clubs get a replacement - the aim of ICC is to make it realistic.
I know this is abit of a long lecture - but im sure it will make a more realistic experience guys. Please i hope you read all of these comments, the people giving them are the buyers, they know what they would like in one of the only decent cricket management games
Will

GrahamB

07-09-2008, 05:57 AM

in my opinion you should be able to give training to every member of the squad

Agreed. Net practice should be automatic for all players. It should be additional technique coaching that is limited.

aus5892

07-09-2008, 08:44 AM

One way to elaborate on this would be for everyone to be training, but given the opportunity to change their intensity and focus in training, with different results. Overtrain, and their fitness goes down and they may even get injured. Undertrain, and you won't see results.

Chris Child

07-09-2008, 09:54 AM

This is generating some great ideas. It’s so helpful to have this sort of feedback. Thanks everyone. I'm putting together a wish list at the moment, but there's plenty of time for more.

Knoxen

07-09-2008, 10:31 AM

I think that a player editor would be good, because it would mean that we can add our own players if necessary - say if a youth player was to join a squad half way through a season then we could add that player to the database sort of thing.

However, if you were to have a player editor etc. then maybe if a team was to be edited, then it couldn't be used online, then it would mean that no "God-Like" teams could be used.

Sureshot

07-09-2008, 03:27 PM

Chris has said that he doesn't want a player editor in the game. For reasons of realism.

muhammad saad

07-09-2008, 05:25 PM

I think bowling speed are a must edition. It will be very good to see your 18 y/o medium pacer develop in to 25 y/o fiery fast bowler.(i-e dynamic speed improvement but it should be random and one more thing speed shouldnt be generic.)

Cymro

07-09-2008, 05:29 PM

Chris has said that he doesn't want a player editor in the game. For reasons of realism.

Yes but unfortunatly as you can see there are quite a few people who want a editor!
I for one want one in the game so I can add stats to players, and update the rosters, therefore it adds to the realism!

Blocky

07-09-2008, 10:26 PM

bails84

07-10-2008, 04:48 PM

Sorry if all this stuff has been mentioned before but here goes...

If Chris wants to keep abilities hidden then how about doing an editor where you can edit a batsman agression or a bowlers role.

How many of you have notice that Yuvraj Singh is defensive???!!! Alex Hales for Notts is alo registered as very defensive where as i know he has hit 55 off one over before!!

Saj Mahmood RMF where Mark Ealham is RFM???

An Editor would be perfect in this regard. Who agrees?

A new feature for 2009 could be for when you have a perfect season (i.e. win everything) you get some offers to Captain an IPL team. You could get $6mil to spend and every player on the game available for purchase...How phenominal would this be??

Stanford T20 - As England Captain and in a full game you could get the oportunity to play this annual fixture...If you are captaining a county your $1million for winning as Captain could go into your countys end of season budget??? Alternatively if you were Captain of another nation in just an "International Game" you could get invited to Captain the West Indies All Stars? Again, what does everyone think?

Keep up the good work. I know for a fact Stuart Broad is a big fan of this game. How about making him the face of 2009????

Thanks for reading.

Agent47

07-10-2008, 05:35 PM

GrahamB

07-10-2008, 06:48 PM

I think a player requesting to be rested when he is very tired will be a cool addition. If you dont rest him after that he may perform poorly. This should be seen more in players who are 34 or older. And the fatigue system at the present works the same way for all players regardless of their age. Any thoughts?

Players rarely perform at their best or consistently when they pass the age of 35, so I think that this should be better reflected in the game.
Also, it's unrealistic to have players older than 40 in the game.

Sureshot

07-10-2008, 08:18 PM

If you want a feature that ENSURES players who purchased ICC 2 or ICC 3 will purchase ICC 2009, it's a database editor and opening up the statistics.

You may not consider it realistic - but every other simulator has one for a great reason - player born content.

Look at how many people have requested it?

Online player, just don't allow edited teams. Have an option for masking statistics as well.

The advantages are, we see the effects of training, we can build our own squads, etc.

Anyway.

Another feature for the quest list

When a player is retiring, you should get a chance to talk to them, talk them out of it, etc - I had a recent situation where Vettori retired at the age of 31, not to mention Ryan Ten Doeschate deciding to retire at 33.

It would be good if you could offer negotiation to retiring players to try and keep them in your squad.

I believe that edited teams aren't currently allowed on-line anyway. I like the idea of the retirement talk, I hate having players retire in their late 20s/early 30s.

Yes but unfortunatly as you can see there are quite a few people who want a editor!
I for one want one in the game so I can add stats to players, and update the rosters, therefore it adds to the realism!

The updated roster adds to the realism, but having 'stats' for players isn't. The only way I could see this being implemented in to the next version (or a version after the next) is for it to be optionable. Either as a download or as a 'tickable' option when you start a game.

Btw, I understand that there are plans for an updated database.

A new feature for 2009 could be for when you have a perfect season (i.e. win everything) you get some offers to Captain an IPL team. You could get $6mil to spend and every player on the game available for purchase...How phenominal would this be??

Stanford T20 - As England Captain and in a full game you could get the oportunity to play this annual fixture...If you are captaining a county your $1million for winning as Captain could go into your countys end of season budget??? Alternatively if you were Captain of another nation in just an "International Game" you could get invited to Captain the West Indies All Stars? Again, what does everyone think?

Both of those ideas would be subject to a license being obtained. Making it unlikely.

GrahamB - Graeme Hick says otherwise!

Themer

07-10-2008, 08:41 PM

I apologise if this has been mentioned but I would love to see the screen where you could view your International Team when selecting it. Its much easier to see the balance of your team rather than just looking at their names.

aus5892

07-11-2008, 03:06 AM

A roster update is being worked on currently, so there's no need for an editor to add or change players.

Mongrel

07-11-2008, 03:33 AM

A roster update is being worked on currently, so there's no need for an editor to add or change players.

Yes there is - Football Manager still has stats updates and a data editor. People want an editor to add to the replay value of the game; there will always be things you guys miss out on and things personally I wouldn't agree with. I'd want to change them.

Let's face it, every major simulation game comes with an editor to allow people to customise their game how they wish - they paid good money for it and deserve the chance to do what they like with it. If that means they want to ruin the game completely, or to play how it was intended it should be their choice.

Agent47

07-11-2008, 10:06 AM

Yes we pay for the game and the people who own the game should decide how the game should be played.

Blocky

07-11-2008, 11:45 AM

Look, trust us as a pretty committed player base to your game which we appreciate and enjoy.

Having an editor will not destroy the realism of your game, all other simulators have editors, it simply gives us greater control, a "God" like control if you will of our players.

I do not feel that you guys should have to worry too much about the NZ Domestic scene, I don't mind that you have a guy like Greg Hay being the best batsman in the game for NZ - but I would like to be able to change this.

I don't mind it being a "tickable" option, something that has to be enabled/downloaded because to be honest, I don't use the online play - I only tend to play offline.

Surely you guys already have a database editor. Chuck a logo on it, tidy it up somewhat and package it.

You will make A LOT of your fans happy and you will see player based content start arriving in the form of rosters, etc.

G-Reb

07-11-2008, 01:35 PM

i know in ICC 2008, that when you pick your squad you only get to see the names i think they should go back to the old ICC's and have a screen that shows your squad the balance of batsman and bowlers

Also having the other tournament would be a great idea, especially the Australian First Class, this would be awesome

a great addition to ICC 2008 is that you get to pick which international squad you want to captain while captaining the first class teams.

Typical Stroke

07-11-2008, 02:17 PM

Simbazz

07-11-2008, 02:25 PM

I agree with all those who keep repeating, "we want an editor," as mainly, i can then give players proper ratings, and correct stats, and overall make the game right. There'll be others doing it, and overall it'll mean an updated roster in a week.

This gives Chris and his team more time to improve the game rather than the roster.

fenwickcc

07-11-2008, 03:35 PM

A few issues after briefly playing the game.........

Players such as Phil Mustard, Luke Wright are not getting into the Durham and Sussex first teams and when they do they fail to score big runs or perform well. This is unrealistic as they are on the fringes of England selction and should perform better. Also players who would never play for England are being selcted for them.

It is difficult to score at high run rates and scores in Twenty 20 Cricket are unrealistic as they rarely reach 150 even when they only lose 1 wicket. This I feel is a big problem.

And also international squads........... You can only select 1 squad of 18 for a tour (surely there should be 2 separate squads for test and odi cricket) considering players in england test team such as vaughan, strauss, cook, ambrose, monty are not in the odi setup.

lastly I think there should be a central contracts system to give more control over certain county games and things.

Themer

07-11-2008, 11:14 PM

Id just like to say i would hate an editor being released for the game. I believe it would ruin the game for people to know their hidden stats. The whole point of the game is to learn over time about your players. For example On my game i have a batsman called Garforth who is absolutley brilliant in First Class and Test Matches but cant seem to hold a bat correctly in OD and ODI. If i had an editor to see their stats and how well they they are able to play in certain match types it would ruin the long fun process of finding out whether he should be in my OD team or not. I would have reverted to a better player. Yes i'd have a better team but i wouldnt have enjoyed it half as much.

Simbazz

07-12-2008, 12:01 AM

Simple, Themer.

Release an editor, we'll use it, you and those others who don't want one don't :) Personal choice wins every time!

aus5892

07-12-2008, 01:59 AM

You're wasting your breath, Chris doesn't want an editor because as he has already said, half the challenge of the game is discovering which talented nobodies will do well for you and which won't.

Mongrel

07-12-2008, 02:05 AM

You're wasting your breath, Chris doesn't want an editor because as he has already said, half the challenge of the game is discovering which talented nobodies will do well for you and which won't.

And there is obviously a majority of people who disagree. Simulators are different things for different people and from what I've seen in the thread, people want the ability to manipulate their game as they wish - whether it be making awesome players, correcting stats they disagree with or to even make historical scenarios.

I find it a touch disappointing - I've bought every ICC game and I'd prefer not t be told how to play the game. To me it seems like an excuse to release stat updates like ICC06 and Ashes Edition. If that's the case then just flat out say it instead of insulting our intelligence by saying we can "find the talented nobodies" ourselves.

Why ask for feature requests and then reject the main idea presented by everyone?

Blocky

07-12-2008, 02:45 AM

I for one, will not be purchasing any further editions of the game without an editor/revealed stats being an option for me.

Who else is with me?

aus5892

07-12-2008, 03:14 AM

And there is obviously a majority of people who disagree. Simulators are different things for different people and from what I've seen in the thread, people want the ability to manipulate their game as they wish - whether it be making awesome players, correcting stats they disagree with or to even make historical scenarios.

I find it a touch disappointing - I've bought every ICC game and I'd prefer not t be told how to play the game. To me it seems like an excuse to release stat updates like ICC06 and Ashes Edition. If that's the case then just flat out say it instead of insulting our intelligence by saying we can "find the talented nobodies" ourselves.

Why ask for feature requests and then reject the main idea presented by everyone?
Chris is taking all the ideas into account, and with the likely addition of more leagues overseas and a lot of the other minor suggestions hopefully being implemented, this isn't just going to be a roster update.

All I'm trying to convene is that Chris is not keen to make an editor, it will take more time and he does not believe that people should have the ability to change player stats in the game, and to see the attributes, which are a lot more complex than you may think.

G-Reb

07-12-2008, 09:23 AM

An editor would ruin the game. the reason you play the game is to develop the youth and make the best team possible for yourself without manipulating it

stop asking for an editor because it isnt going to happen and chris wont care if there is a majority that wants it becasue its his game to distribute and update not yours to manipulate yourself

MarksNotts

07-12-2008, 09:52 AM

I totally agree, an editor with access to the ability stats would totally ruin the game, i have played ICC since the original and one of the addictive factors is finding out the abilities of your team through playing the game, besides this it would ruin the online game, with players editing and having superteams.
One thing though would be an editor with no access to ability stats, but be able to edit players roles, ie change Ealham from RFM to RMF, or change a player to from bowler to an all rounder, and to change who a player plays for, so if your team in real life changes an overseas player, you could do it in ICC.

Yorks13

07-12-2008, 12:40 PM

I think this is a good idea, don't allow people to see stats because that would ruin the game but you should be able to change peoples batting preferences, as Mustard, Yuvraj Singh, Albie Morkel are all listed as defensive!!! You should also be able to change people to allrounders or batsmen e.g. Bresnan is listed as a bowler, but he is clearly an allrounder as he scores hundreds and averaged in the 80's for me in a season, also Broad is not an allrounder but if you saw his 76 at Lord's you can clearly see he is an allrounder. Why are allrounders never listed as openers??? S Watson opens for Australia but he isnt listed as one, you sshould fix this as it would be very simple. So i think you should add an editor just don't let stats be viewable just let people change aggression types and class, or you could redo all of this yourself, how did you come up with Morkel as a defensive player?????

Knoxen

07-12-2008, 01:53 PM

I think with the regards to the editor that it should be down to the creator's to choose whether we have one or not. I think that it could be a good idea, and so do lots of other people, but I also think that the creators have a right to decide whether we have an editor or not.

I think that there will always be people who want one, and people who don't. SO it looks like we will all have to agree to disagree because there isn't much we can do about it.

:) Back to the game in hand, does anyone else know why sometimes you can bowl a side out for a really low score, instigate the follow on, and then the opposition score a massive score? I can't work that out?

Agent47

07-12-2008, 02:55 PM

What the heck? Requests being rejected in a feature requests thread?

Knoxen

07-12-2008, 03:27 PM

On the features front, I would like to have a breakdown of averages for test matches and against previous teams.

For instance,

As Australia against West Indies, I can see my full team's average for that series. But at the next series, I can only see the average for the whole season, rather than for that current series.

So it would be nice to have a breakdown of series' rather than the whole year.
And maybe something that would show previous form of batsman and bowlers against a team - maybe like their best statistics or something.

Chris Child

07-12-2008, 04:34 PM

Hey guys - don't put words into my mouth. I have not said that an editor (or any other feature) is out of the question. I've said that in my opinion it would take a lot of the fun out of the game if it's done badly. I also said that a limited editor that allows player type changes is being considered. The whole point of this thread is to get people's opinions. There seems to be an excellent discussion going on discussing the pros and cons, which I'm reading and getting a lot of excellent feedback from.

I haven't finished reading this thread yet, but there are loads of fantastic suggestions which will all be considered.

- just noticed a point "surely you already have an editor"

No. We've never created one. The database is made from text files and C++ code.

Chris Child

07-12-2008, 05:05 PM

A couple of other points that are bugging me on this:

If we create an editor - edited teams should not be available for online play (I think we're all agreed on that). There is a big issue with this that a decent hacker would be able to edit the odd feature, find our where the change in the file is and then change it in a hex editor. Alternatively, the editor itself could be hacked to allow online play. I'd hate to see the online game ruined for any reason, as I think the community aspect of online play is one of the best things about Cricket Captain.

Being able to see player abilities might raise issues with the reeal players.

Again – this doesn’t mean no editor – it means we’ll have to be careful about what can be edited.

Agent47

07-12-2008, 05:11 PM

We request the editor to make our 4 hours a day play into even more hours. Okay maybe someone should start a new thread for the editor problem. I will make my other requests here and no more editor talk from me in this thread unless I am provoked.

Cymro

07-12-2008, 07:53 PM

On other games that allow database editors the game only allows the normal database that is either been updated by the games creators or the start off database. So maybe that thought could be used for the game!

Reagrding what could be edited I only think player stats should be edited (e.g. amount of runs and wickets taken) and whether they are a batsman / bowler etc
I dont think anything else should really be in contention for the database if one was to be made!

GrahamB

07-12-2008, 09:06 PM

Perhaps a game editor could be provided to individual members by request through email.
Those members in return would forfeit their online playing capabilities.
Just a thought.

Chris Child

07-12-2008, 11:10 PM

An editor for stats, player types and preferences only: would certainly get around my main objections in terms of game play and probably satisfy most people requirements on an editor. We'd probably have to leave batsman/bowler aggression levels out, or players could make unfair one-day teams, but other than that it seems like a good solution - unless I'm missing something obvious.

Simbazz

07-13-2008, 12:05 AM

Is there anyway in which we could have a roster editor! I mean, i'd gladly give up my online priviledges just to have a proper up to date roster, with correct players with correct bat/bowl types. You guys have done a great job, but theres like 5 or 6 errors alone in the Hampshire squad!

Is there no way we could have an editor to do such a thing?

GrahamB

07-13-2008, 12:22 AM

I'd like to be able to give technique coaching to a limited number of players in between tours/series when playing the international game.

aus5892

07-13-2008, 05:59 AM

muhammad saad

07-13-2008, 06:21 AM

Far too many good bowlers in India ,Srilanka and their population is also very large in reality there are avg about 15 bowlers in a nations who avg 20-27. plz reduce the number of bowlers generated by the game it just remove the challenge of finding good bowler who can replace current good bowler.(Which is still present in Aus ,NZ ,WI ,SAF and some times PAK too I never enjoy captaining IND or Sri becuz of lack of challenge.)
Although the generation for batsman is perfect.

One more thing in ODIs IND mostly have bowlers who dont played a single test but have 100s of ODIs wkts at 15/16 per piece which is unrealistic.(I think you can sort it out in next patch)

G-Reb

07-13-2008, 09:09 AM

Gday Guys

i was talking to my brother about some updates that could brought into the new ICC

and he agrees with the adding of new tournaments and that you should be able to have a bit more control ova youth teams and the like.

muhammad saad

07-13-2008, 03:04 PM

Simbazz

07-13-2008, 05:15 PM

We are working on editing the database right now with all the changes requested by users here in the database errors thread.

My point is, is that as with FM or any other main stream management type game, there is an editor. This means i can make neccesary changes straight away, without having to wait for the producers to do them for me! As a community it could mean the game could thrive!

Agent47

07-13-2008, 05:20 PM

Isura

07-14-2008, 12:02 AM

Essential and "Easy" Improvements
- Higher runrates in ODI and T20 games.
- Rain delays/reduced overs in OD games (with possibly simplied duckworth lewis type system).
- Saving squads (was in 2006, don't know why it's removed).
- Ground names (removed in new version).
- More grounds. Sri Lanka should have Galle and Kandy, Australia Hobart, India Mohali and a few others too, Pakistan Faisalbad.
- More accurate pitch conditions for different grounds (eg no wicket in Sri Lanka assists the fast bowlers from the start of the match).
- Pitch degeneration - sometimes have tracks "flatten out" in days 2-3 like at Lord's. The "dew" effect in ODI night games.
- Night matches.
- More detailed pitch effects. Like bounce helps RF bowlers, seam helps RFM.
- Save scorecards to a proper HTML/XML format like in Cricket Coach.
- More international fixtures. Asia cup, T20 world cup, ICC champions trophy, those ODI only series' sometimes. Use a fake name and let the users edit fixture names and that solves the licensing issue right?
- Fixture editor for international game. Edit 1-3 years into the future like in Cricket Coach.
- See fixtures for at least 2 years into the future.
- Career strike rates for FC matches.
- Stats don't reset at huge numbers like 2048 wickets.
- Stats for the last 3 years. Like you can see the player stats in each of the last 3 seasons.

Cool Features for the Future
Detailed career records
- Top 10 Highest/lowest team scores
- Top 10 individual scores (FC, OD, T20)
- Top 10 bowling performances
- Highest partnerships for each wicket and total partnerships (for any wicket)
- All-time career stats should be saved like highest average, most runs, most wickets, etc (see cricinfo for all the standard career stats that they keep)

- "Hall of Fame" section where you can nominate retired players. This is a section where you can view the profiles and stats of your great players. When a player retires you are asked whether to nominate him into the club or national hall of fame.

- More organized and detailed training. For example bowlers should have more training options like 'weights/fitness' which reduces injury risk longterm. This is a big area, and others have already given some great suggestions.
- Sports psychology training to help players in bad form (and young players).

- More management options in international mode. Budgets for each cricket board. You can use these budgets to sign players, hire coaches, invest in youth academies, go on tours. And competition's like the world cup can increase the budget.
- Under 19 and A team tours (optional, eg 1) do nothing, 2) choose squad only, or 3) play whole tour. This is a great way to test the new players and it adds variety.

In summary, once the minor gameplay issues I've listed in the first part are fixed, cricket management games will have to start improving in the 2 main areas of statistical detail and management options.

Isura

07-14-2008, 12:03 AM

I know what I am gonna request now will be frowned upon by many long term players of this game but i will post it anyway. I know there is an easy and normal level to the game, but will it be possible to include an arcade difficulty to the more casual or pick up and play type of players? Just playing for fun.

I think it's a good idea. Or have a 'simple mode' where you don't have to worry about all the management details like training, but just play the games (and maybe with less strategy options for a quick hit!)

Blocky

07-14-2008, 02:14 AM

Wrong wrong wrong.

You can't change a player to All Rounder without being able to edit the stats.

Like I said, I won't be buying the next edition without an editor.

Detroit500

07-14-2008, 06:11 PM

something i would like to see is changes in a player type...in ex. a bowler change into and all-rounder if he has a season of good batting and looks to be a good one in the future. Also a batsmen turn an all-rounder if he proves he can bowl well.

muhammad saad

07-15-2008, 09:10 AM

Hey Chris can you mention some ideas which are on top priority? plz tell us becuz there will be a huge disappointment if these features are not implement after such long thread. So plz keep us informed about the things that gonna implement.

muhammad saad

07-15-2008, 09:11 AM

Themer

07-15-2008, 10:57 AM

Wrong wrong wrong.

You can't change a player to All Rounder without being able to edit the stats.

Like I said, I won't be buying the next edition without an editor.

Simple Solution for you Don't. Just because you want one doesn't mean they're should be one. Many people such as myself wouldn't want an Editor where you can change all stats including their Hidden stats

KentLad

07-15-2008, 12:11 PM

It would be nice in future versions if you could decide which grounds to play your home matches at.

Kent, for example should play most games at Canterbury, but you should also be able to select a few games to play at Tunbridge Wells, Beckenham and even Maidstone.

Possibly you could invest funds in stadium development, and by increasing the capacity of your ground and improving the facilities, you could gain Test or ODI status, and thus more revenue from international games being held there.

The dimensions and characteristics of each ground could be incorporated - ie. normally higher run rates on smaller pitches etc.

Another option would be to install floodlights - temporary or permanant at grounds. Obviously the cost of installing floodlights (especially permanantly) would be high, but you could then increase ticket prices and have floodlit matches.

In these games, the effects of the floodlights could be programmed in - ie. harder to bat under the lights.

Also, it might be a nice feature to show attendances at matches - likely to be about 500 people per day at a midweek Championship game, but maxed out for a floodlit 20/20.

Themer

07-15-2008, 06:11 PM

The above suggestions on attendances and revenue from tickets is a very good idea. A whole new financial system is required as the current finance area is very limited.

Agent47

07-16-2008, 10:45 AM

We should be able to add and play music when playing the game if we drop our mp3 files into a folder. GTA radio station style.

GrahamB

07-16-2008, 11:47 AM

We should be able to add and play music when playing the game if we drop our mp3 files into a folder. GTA radio station style.

Turn the sound options off and run Winamp in the background. :D

Agent47

07-16-2008, 01:48 PM

I do that anyway by running the game and media player:-D. I meant an in-game option.

NickGill

07-16-2008, 11:47 PM

Bring back the stick men on the replay screens! It ran better and the actions and shots looked far better

Themer

07-17-2008, 12:46 AM

Although the old animations did run better I believe that they should be allowed to improve them to bring them to run as smoothly as the old ones did. If they can't i would rather have the old cartoony style.

Agent47

07-17-2008, 03:53 AM

The game seemed to be less serious and more fun to play till 2006 ashes with those cartoon animations.

bluey

07-18-2008, 01:34 AM

i personally would like to see a fantasy type game where you can play a championship season with some of the all time great players incorporated in the current season you are playing in. For example playing Bradman/ W.G Grace/ Tendulker/ Botham in the same team. But i can only wish. lol

acook

07-19-2008, 04:06 PM

Chris, How about:

pre season friendlies of your choice (possibley tours)

loaning young players (under 21/22) out to either other counties, minor counties or as a pro in a couple of the top amature leagues in the country (birmingham premier, central lancashire league, central yorkshire league)

youth teams which are veiwable.

scouting system for local amature leagues.

Playing the full game with 2,3 or 4 players.

Some players playing in oz during the winter.

Recieve a fairly detailed account of the 2nd team matches off your coaches.

Junior Festivals where you can have scouts to check out any promising youngsters.

Instead of an editor (which would be good) could we not just have an option of creating your own player instead of being able to edit everything else.

More media messages.

A better end to the season for e.g awards

I would pay 30-35 quid for a cc09 with theese features added.

acook

07-20-2008, 06:57 PM

I also think being able to terminate player contracts at any time in the game should be available. This would make the game more real in my opinion. Just like on football manager where you can terminate contracts at any time. However like football manager there should be like a financial limit and when you try to terminate one to many contracts the board/comittee step in to stop it as they cannot afford it. Or you could make it so you can only terminate player contracts which have a year left.

Hiring actual people as various coaches, asistant coaches and physios would also be good.

Myrmecophaga

07-20-2008, 08:52 PM

Hiring actual coaches and physios would be awesome. More freedom with building up youth players, and contracts in general would be great, it would be nice for their to be more options than you can afford for advancing your team, so you don't just max fund everything, but instead must discern what is most important. You could be able to save money in the main contracts page to spend during the season, send a player off for technique coaching in the winter.

Playing Unis would have to be the biggest improvement for me though.

muhammad saad

07-21-2008, 07:43 AM

One more thing I would like to add is that youth players are pretty much same type of players when you look at their stats like most youth players have high FC bat avg and a bit lower OD avg same for the bowlers high FC avg and low OD avg then allrounders also have these characterstics i-e high FC bat and bowl avg compare to OD avgs.
This should be change becuz some players are more good at OD level compare to FC.

NickGill

07-21-2008, 02:29 PM

I like all the ideas! I do think that going back to the initial animations instead of the 3d men would be the biggest improvement. Doing this could leave more space open to add new features.

I would also like to see a mac version

NickGill

07-21-2008, 02:37 PM

Agent47

07-21-2008, 04:29 PM

Instructing how a player should be trained when not on international tours when playing the international mode now that we have many training options.

acook

07-21-2008, 07:21 PM

Apologies if this has already been posted but I would like the option to be able to quit an international or county job at any point during the season and be able to take up a post at another county/country.

yh i like that because say if your in 2012 and you've got a bit bored of managing a certain county and want a new challenge it would mean you wouldn't have to start all over again. Aswell I think you should get offerd jobs at differnt counties when you are doing well. For e.g if you manager a divison 2 side but not getting promoted but are doing well for e.g winning other comps a divison 1 side could come in. Aswell as various other scenarios.

Myrmecophaga

07-21-2008, 07:36 PM

Yes, more flexibility to build your own career would be great, plus the frustration of loosing to your old county due to the great regens you made for it :).

Generally, and you might think this an odd request, I think the game could do with being a bit more frustrating: Rain in particular should be more prolific, total washouts possible etc. Other things, such as waterlogged pitches affecting outfield pace or causing delays and injuries in the field, during pre-game practise or mid-spell rather than from Rtd Hrts and bowling a bowler to exhaustion. Emagine what it would be like if you could pick a team, and then just before the toss, in the game, you could have to choose a different player because one player trod on a stray ball in practise...

What are other people's views on this? Or is it just not cricket?

acook

07-21-2008, 11:18 PM

I think there are higher priority things then that If it was in addition to plenty of other good ideas then yh fine. But it wouldn't be a selling point for me to make me buy the next game.

matador04

07-22-2008, 12:52 PM

muhammad saad

07-22-2008, 02:45 PM

This must have been mentioned before, but for years I've wanted to see more on player history. Instead of just career, last year and this season can't we have each season separately with details of club/country, averages and other important stats? By doing this you could see year by year improvement and a list of clubs.

Definitely a hit idea ,one more thing I would like to add is dramatic improvement in some players(very rare though) like Flintoff ,Yusuf Pathan ,Shoaib Malik's batting ,Sanath Jaysuria etc this will give more realism.

muhammad saad

07-22-2008, 03:11 PM

How about last 10 highlights of dismissal of particular batsman ? this will help in preference training by look at last 10 dismissal ,this can implement on last 12 innings page.

Shelsey

07-22-2008, 07:31 PM

Ability to change sides is a must. You should also be able to be sacked or resign. At the end of the season those teams that haven't been doing too well could sack their coaches and you could apply for the job.

Sureshot

07-23-2008, 11:09 AM

How about last 10 highlights of dismissal of particular batsman ? this will help in preference training by look at last 10 dismissal ,this can implement on last 12 innings page.

A bit like a 'How out' statistic?

For instance:

Last 10 innings:

Bowled - 2
LBW - 3
Caught keeper - 1
Caught slip - 1
Caught other - 2
Not out - 1

?

muhammad saad

07-23-2008, 03:17 PM

A bit like a 'How out' statistic?

For instance:

Last 10 innings:

Bowled - 2
LBW - 3
Caught keeper - 1
Caught slip - 1
Caught other - 2
Not out - 1

?

Yeah that would do the job and same thing can be apply for bowlers too.

Isura

07-23-2008, 09:22 PM

How about end of match/inning highlights. I don't watch highlights since it disrupts the flow of the game, but I'd watch all dismissals for example if I could do it all at the end.

Mongrel

07-24-2008, 04:09 AM

With regards to records, they don't have to be in depth or anything - but I'd like to see some basic all-time records included. Examples could be:

-Most career runs for all forms of cricket (i.e. a seperate section for FC, List A, T20, Test, ODI and T20Is)
-Most wickets for all forms
-Highest individual scores
-Best bowling in an innings

It couldn't be too onerous to include - they are all listed on Cricinfo and you could get anyone to compile them for you (I'd be happy to). Particularly for people who play long careers, it would make a nice addition instead of just highest score, best bowling and partnerships for each nation.

I've probably said it before, but there has to be a way for more players to play domestic Twenty20 cricket (nobody does) and maybe a way to phase in more T20Is in the international arena as I can't imagine any T20 regular retiring with just fifteen games under their belt over the course of ten years!

I'd also like to see the match engine tweaked a bit to increase the scores of computer generated results. Too often do you see one day sides score sub-200 and test sides rarely (if ever) post over 400 or 500. The Twenty20 engine needs some work, as well.

Mongrel

07-24-2008, 04:10 AM

How about end of match/inning highlights. I don't watch highlights since it disrupts the flow of the game, but I'd watch all dismissals for example if I could do it all at the end.

I'm pretty sure you can view individual wickets. I haven't tested it before, but you can manually press the different fall of wickets in match screen (i.e. when you press next over and such) to view them. You could just do it at the end of each innings.

Myrmecophaga

07-24-2008, 07:31 AM

How about end of match/inning highlights. I don't watch highlights since it disrupts the flow of the game, but I'd watch all dismissals for example if I could do it all at the end.
You can watch dissmissals at the end of the innings by clicking on them at fall of wicket.

Packer Al

07-24-2008, 11:57 AM

I would like to see 'Runs Per Session' included as a simple statistic under Match Analysis to aid decisions on declarations - it could be calculated manually I suppose but it should be readily available (if it's already there then I can't find it)

Packer Al

07-24-2008, 12:03 PM

It would be useful for bowlers to have the 'real-life' ability to vary the pace of an individual ball bowled during an over. This is a routine part of a bowler's armoury which doesn't seem to be reflected in the current game

Themer

07-24-2008, 03:37 PM

I would like to see people injured but still able to play with their fitness level obviously low. E.g Sidebottom in Englands 2nd to last match was obviously injured but still played even if his pace suffered. I also think that people shouldn't recover so quickly after a spell of bolwing. Currently you can rest you bowler for about 6 overs and theyre nearly fully ready again.

Desktop Hoggy

07-25-2008, 12:53 AM

Photos of each player
Computer players to have coaches name i.e. Alan Butcher, Surrey
Powerplays on the Friends Provident Trophy
Music to be played when a four, six or wicket is taken
More variety of crowd sounds e.g. fans chanting "YORKSHIRE!" "Lancashire la la la" "Barmy Army" etc
The fielding team celebrating getting a wicket
Winning team of a competition collecting their trophy and celebrating
Editor database, just to alter player types and competitions
Games to be interrupted by rain and reduced overs using the duckworth lewis method
Each game to be timed, must complete x amount of overs in a certain time or get points deducted
Arrange pre season friendlies and tours
More commentators

Fozzie_Stars

07-25-2008, 01:48 PM

For 2009 I'd like to see a few new things such as,

State cricket in Australia,
Internet play with countries,
A Twenty20 world cup.

Myrmecophaga

07-25-2008, 09:16 PM

Substandard pitch penalties.

adyhorn

07-25-2008, 09:49 PM

I don't want an editor. I want an option on the game to transfer players from one team to another. That way people can update their squads and not get annoyed by having players that have left.

acook

07-25-2008, 10:16 PM

state cricket and an editor would be the 2 biggest things i would love to see on the next one. I think we'd all pay more for the game aswell if there are better features added.

Nivoleum

07-26-2008, 06:32 AM

The main thing I'd like, is for all regens to have first names, and maybe a wider variety of names for Sri Lanka, Pakistan etc.

tenpoundfortytwo

07-26-2008, 01:40 PM

Hi, been playing the game for years and just had a couple of thoughts.

Just quickly, played this years version quite a bit now and it seems as though the balance between bat and ball has swung quite a bit!

In Icc 3 a good first class bowling average was around 30 and i that was bit too high, batsman therefore had higher averages and plenty of overseas batsmen had 50+ averages.

I guess you saw this and therefore tweaked the game engine to make bowlers better and have lower averages. I just think its gone a little bit too far.
I cant seem to get many batsmen averaging 40+ and i guess another good illustration is that K.P averages 50+ in first class in real life but after a few years in Icc 2008 that has dropped to mid 40's.
You are probably aware of all this but i just thought id say! Hopefully next year the balance can swing back a bit!

Someone else has already mentioned the Hall of fame idea, something iv been thinking about for a couple of years.

Would just be good to have all time top 10 test and odi run scorers and wicket takers and perhaps domestic and county records.

I tend to play the game way into 2030-50's and obviously get through a lot of players-would be nice to be able to bring up the player profiles of the great ones. Maybe have an option to save the profiles into a folder or something.

Also just though that Northampton have player called Steven Crook who is really an allrounder- is there a way of letting that status change? Like the batting preferences change, if a batsmen takes perhaps 100+ wickets and averages less than 35 they could become an allrounder? Or a bowler who averages more than 20 with more than 1000 runs would become an allrounder. Not really sure this would work to be honest though!

One last thing- noticed that english keepers average about 2 cpm whereas overseas domestic keepers seem to average around 5. Looking at a few scorecards of skipped matches, there seems to be very few caught behinds. I really have no idea what the average dismissals for a real life keeper are to be honest but it must be a couple an innings.

Anyway that was a bit long sorry! Dont do an editor by the way!

Cheers!

Packer Al

07-26-2008, 06:19 PM

I'd like to have Hawkeye replays as a separate option under match highlights so that it could be switched on/off when playing out meaningless innings when a result is obvious so that I can move quickly to my next defeat !

Similarly an option at a player's discretion to switch to a computer-controlled match mid-game (if technically possible)

These are simply options not intended to spoil the enjoyment those who enjoy playing out every ball of every game

adyhorn

07-26-2008, 10:02 PM

Batsmen do occasionally hit their wicket. They never do on this game.

Manickam

07-27-2008, 04:16 AM

There should be more options during the match. There are no third umpire referrals. We should be able choose what highlights we want. Lets say u want 4+ and no wickets u can't. We must be able see how many percent he has improved using the techniques if we want to make the batsmen from defensive to very aggresive.

Manickam

07-27-2008, 04:33 AM

It would be better if we could actually bat and bowl during the matches. We can create new stats by playing. I am sure more people will enjoy this.

Mongrel

07-27-2008, 07:50 AM

It would be better if we could actually bat and bowl during the matches. We can create new stats by playing. I am sure more people will enjoy this.

There's C07 and BLIC for that stuff.

boycee02

07-27-2008, 09:32 AM

Hey Chris thought of four requests if there possible and if others agree with them please comment

1. Slingers Bowling Action - Lasith Malinga and Fidel Edwards would look awsome with the slingers bowling action?

2. Big Spin Rips - Spinners always have one ball in the over they try to rip alot of turn. Could we have spinners do big turn balls?

3.Ajantha Mendis - This new spin sensation spins googlies, doosras and normal off break. Could you make him spin both ways on ICC 2008? Others like P. Chawla and kumble bowl nice googlies too

4. Sounds - Is ther any chance for sounds of like crowd cheers, players lbw appeals to be improved?

many thanks

Agent47

07-27-2008, 10:32 AM

I dont watch highlights much so animation is not a big worry for me. A player retiring hurt for one session or two days in a FC match. Then coming in later to score runs in the last session of a game or in the last day of the game would be awesome. At the present, if a player is injured during a match, he is always injured for weeks together. Another thing I noted was a player retiring hurt with a groin strain when hit in the torso by a bouncer. LOL !!!

Nivoleum

07-27-2008, 01:42 PM

Chris Child

07-28-2008, 02:42 PM

Wow. You guys really have been busy. I've read through all the lists and posts on this forum and made notes on everything for our design meetings. There are some great suggestions here. It’s excellent to see so many people getting involved.

There's still time to add more. It would probably be impossible to get everything mentioned here in for next year, but with your support we'll be able to keep making this game for many years we'll keep adding as much as we can every version.

Thanks again,
Chris

acook

07-28-2008, 02:43 PM

thats good to here. what are the current faviourites to go in the new game?

Themer

07-28-2008, 04:10 PM

Thanks for trawling through all these requests it makes us happy to know that we've helped you get ideas for further versions and not been ignored.

muhammad saad

07-28-2008, 06:11 PM

thats good to here. what are the current faviourites to go in the new game?

Yeah I would like to know that too:) plz tell your most important feature/work for 2009 edition;)

(I personally think it should be U19 teams with U19 world cup plus custom/limited type editor to make new domestic competitions for different unlicensed countries)

Malcolmp

07-28-2008, 06:34 PM

I haven't read all the posts so this may have been mentioned already. For me, the ability to play tests between historical sides, or between historical and modern sides would be great fun.

Myrmecophaga

07-29-2008, 08:52 AM

Second class counties would be fun to be able to play, if combined with the changing counties idea.

Manickam

07-29-2008, 12:43 PM

It would be better if we can create our own players. Maybe create a player with our name.

Agent47

07-29-2008, 02:14 PM

Off topic, but to Chris. No one here hates your game because of the little thing here and the other thing thats not present there. We tried to give you feedback on a great game that most of us have been playing everyday atleast for the last 2 years(believe me we have got people playing till the year 2170). Good to see that some of these ideas are going to be implemented and cant wait for the next version. It would be great if someone keeps posting little portions of the features in this forum when the game is being made( When the making starts). Cheers !!!

Packer Al

07-29-2008, 03:24 PM

Player Records :

Would it be possible to highlight the members of a player's own team members under Players Profiles so that they can be quickly identified by scrolling to see how their domestic/international rankings are progressing

Training Records:

Would it be possible to have coaching modules recorded in a players personal records automatically on allocating sessions - I am trying to record them manually and it is time-consuming and awkward

Prize Money :

I would like to see a financial display of prizemoney to be won by final placings either as a separate screen or maybe included in the competition rules areas to assist in prioritising team selections

Great game though !!!

chrisyt

07-29-2008, 07:08 PM

it would be great if we had the ipl where you could have unlimited overseas players. and big money to use. you could also have a 50 over competition and first class competition for the ipl in a game mode seperate to the carrer mode

Themer

07-30-2008, 11:54 AM

I wouldn't like the idea of an IPL theres other areas in the game which need tweaks before something like that should be undertaken. I also don't see how it could be implemented in the game as it is.

Lennon_Marx

08-01-2008, 12:51 AM

Must admit I havent played ICC for a few years, but wanting to get back into it. But a few suggestions that I'd like to reiterate/suggest:
- A database editor- I could care less about editing players atrributes and such, though obviously it would make non official adjustments to players that much easier and more worthwhile, but where I really would find a database editor useful is for other parts of the game: editing/adding/removing competitions/teams at various (eg. new teams becoming eliligible to play test matches, new state/county sides; ability to add a new competition if you want) if for no other reason than we all know cricket isnt a static game and competition come and go- having a structure element to the editor would allow those of us who desire to say add the IPL or incontinental cup or the Aus domestic season, or create the long wished tiered test system (just as examples) would be wonderful to have and would get around the pesky issues involving licencing. This would allow for some very interesting long term careers for those who like the idea of cricket evolving through time. This and the following idea are both very successfully implemented in the Out of the park baseball series, and large scale customisation such as this really does make the sky the limit in regards to the types of management game players and the number of them who could conceivably become interested in the game itself

-Perhaps as an offshoot- an evolving national player base (eg West Indian/Zimbabwean/Bangladesh) national teams slowly improving/ diminishing as it would in response to real life factors (eg. winning a world cup, gaining test status, a player with huge success like Murali). Even if this isnt something that finds its way into the game in its retail, to have an option like this in an editor would be a huge boon

-Much wider player/team/competition stat history is an absolute must. In a game like cricket where so much of the interest in the game is in the statistical side, this is an area where you make a much more interesting game with only a very minimal change. Within this you could add yearly awards (wisden/cricinfo, county player of the year, MacGillvray medal etc, etc), hall of fame, invitational cricket teams etc. This is for many players of this particular genre of game one of the most important areas, in terms of really creating an interesting and absorbing gameplay environment

-allow for hirings/firings, based upon performance on the field, handling of finances and so forth. Also perhaps a expectations faciltity, whereby if you take charge of a certain team the expectations of your performance will be modified by the teams history, current squad quality, previous years performance and available finances. Would allow for far more depth within the game, and allow for career progression to occur on multiple levels

- Really like the idea of reforming the finance, fixtures and training models to make them more realistic, as have been discussed, the key i guess in the fixtures model that i particularly would like to see, is the ability to create new stadia/grounds and especially in the international side of things choose which stadium gets what game. Hiring/firing coaches and better contract negotiation/barganing ideas perhaps as well as the option to create/remove a salary cap from competitions would be awesome

-down the road- ability to play women's or junior cricket (U17s/19s) within the career progression model. Eg you can choose to start off managing only the youth side to begin your career, instead at starting at county level

-Really like the idea of a better atmospheric model for night games, rain reduced games and the multiple ways in which those elements can have a major effect on the game of cricket. Perhaps even to the level of the Kookaburra white ball (where used) not swinging as much as the Duke, results of footmarks effecting only small parts of the pitch.

- I guess the overall message here is to go and obtain every possible sports management game there is available, look at the things that are done to provide for the players (especially in terms of customisation), and kind of go from there

acook

08-01-2008, 01:05 AM

managing under 19s and 17s team would be quality especially if you could work closely with the 2nd and 1st team coaches. And if you do well after a season or 2 get offerd the 1st team job at not just ure own county but any.

Themer

08-01-2008, 09:20 PM

I would like to see some sort of rating system implemented to show how well a certain player performed in each innings. Like what is seen on Football Manager so I can see more easily how well people are performing oblivious of there figures in the match. Eg If a bowler bowls superbly but for no runs it is hard to see how well they have done apart how many times they got the batsman to play and miss etc. It isn't a must but would improve the overall feel of the game , in my opinion.

ADDED: Also I believe that the International teams should be consistant which there selections. In a test series England went through 3 wicketkeepers.

Shelsey

08-02-2008, 06:58 AM

Also I believe that the International teams should be consistant which there selections. In a test series England went through 3 wicketkeepers.

That's not unusual

meakers

08-02-2008, 10:34 AM

i would like to see more media preassure on out of form players or some of the golden oldies i.e botham and gower expressing their opinion

DonaldC

08-02-2008, 10:51 AM

A few suggestions: -

1. The ability to tell your bowlers to bowl a yorker or bouncer
2. The ability to tell batsman to look to 'milk it' i.e. looking for 1s and 2s
3. Add the pace attribute to pitches, e.g. in India they are likely to be slow, in Australia more likely to be quick, bouncy pitches
4. More of a bug - the short ball seems to be really easy to play. You never see steepling bounce from a back-of-a-length ball that takes the splice in ICC. A key for RF bowlers

Themer

08-02-2008, 04:35 PM

That's not unusual

Thats very unusual, England have gone through a few in the past but 3 in 3 matches is just silly.

Sureshot

08-04-2008, 11:39 AM

Well the real England cricket team once had a different captain for each match in a Test series.

Out of interest, was their mitigating circumstances like an injury?

Themer

08-04-2008, 11:46 AM

No two of them were my players both fully fit and in form in FC matches and the other who played the last match was fit throughout the series. I feel that the International teams should be alot more consistant in there selection. Its just odd when they have people centrally contracted then never play them. They should pick people who are centrally contracted alot more. In fact the whole central contract thing should be rejigged so we can pick them if in charge of the international team and have the option to rest them from domestic matches.

Packer Al

08-04-2008, 03:34 PM

I think this has been mentioned to a lesser extent before but I would support being able to improve your squad mid-season through player purchasing/loan players deals etc

I really enjoy taking the least financially viable teams and trying to upgrade them each season but the financials at present simply don't seem to allow this as extra funds are totally results-based - an endless doubly-whammy - poor team, poor results, struggles to fund a minimum 18 squad except by youngsters who can't perform in the short-term

I would like a bit more flexibility to raise funds to allow squad improvement - perhaps by raising loans, approaching the Board, fund-raising games against for example old -internationals, charity games with a percentage take, sponsorship deals, merchandising, TV rights (not that anyone would watch my teams), property sales, kick-backs for players sold to other Clubs (legal only of course)

Bowled_Him

08-04-2008, 05:41 PM

I would love to see a more fluid contract/transfer system. Instead of it all happening in a blobk at the end of the season, i would love to be able to manage my sqaud during the season. For instance buying one overseas players for the start of the season then a different one for 20/20

jackchafer

08-05-2008, 06:22 PM

Well i have knicked a few off poeple but hear we go.

Vice captain-It sounds fantastic because in real life the vice captain will come up to you and make a surrgestion of who should bowl ect.

Bowlers style: We get the very basic like LFM, RF. But flintoff can swing the ball but it dosen't show on the game. It dosen't tell us these things.

Suggestions:If you the captain poeple are going to come to you in the dressing room and mabye give you a little word and ask if he can open the bowling and why mabye they should have that.

Media: After a game or a squad sletion mabye you should have newspapers telling there views if it was a risky descion or not.

real life: You can pick the captain but the captain never stands down you can pick him forever untill he retires mabye once in a while you should have a captain leave his post.

Commentry:get better commentry it's rubbish why don't you have the sky sports commentaters and have intavels like they do like every 30 min like they do in real life.

Shot: Have shots that are actually shots not a swipe for the ball. real shots you can see clearly

People: the run outs are so frustrating because in real life they player would have pick the ball up but no he has to spend his time doing some wierd sit that wastes time when you could of ran them out.

Team talks: At innigns breaks or tea or lunch you can give the team a real talking to if they have played rubbish or praise them if they have played well.

Commentaters again: If you are going to take my opinion on the commentators and make it better could you please make them better and funny and exciting. Like David loyd taking hte micheal out of bothem or some thing like that.

High Motion and Hawkeye: Make the technology better not so that you can only see they Hawkeye in one posiotion.

well these are just my opinions on what you should do please get back to this and tell me what you think!!

Dark_Horse

08-06-2008, 01:08 PM

The reason why management games are so great to me is because it is fantasy in sense....where will I ever get the chances to manage a a county side of an international side? The answer is never. This game should make you feel like you really are a manager.

And sorry to say...the main reason why I'd like to have an editor...and don't think I'm a loser, but I'd love to create myself in the game too....be great to live that dream through a game....and this game inparticular....

If someone would edit me into the game....then I won't need an editor...lol.....why not give curtain people an editor....like start a group...that edit player stats so that they are correct and only they can edit...this still improves the stats and even they can create scenarios that players can play....create players for the players....blah...blah...blah...

I just want to beable to enjoy the entire fantasy feeling and not just get a piece of the cake.....this is what makes other management games in other genres so great....the feeling that it might be real....and that ur controling a team from your remote location....that alex furganson is just the face on tv and ur the puppet master

acook

08-06-2008, 02:24 PM

couldn't agree more.

travdaddy

08-06-2008, 08:27 PM

The international schedule needs to be altered. It gets boring and predictable, the only thing to look forward to is the world cup ech four years. It would be awesome to add more tournaments like the 2020 cup, champions trophy and smaller schedules like chappell - haddlee series etc.
Also give the player a warning when players are thinking of retiring so you can prepare with youth players.
I think rain should be a factor in ODI games....no matter what people think it is a major factor in the game of cricket, it would add another dimension to the game if a 5 match ODI series had 3 games washed out.
Also it would be cool if players statistics were kept even after they retired...so records could be kept better.
i think thats it...
still a great game though...i buy new games, but always seem to make my way back to ICC,

Manickam

08-07-2008, 11:56 AM

Creating a player of yourself is really good. Your get to enjoy the game more.

Myrmecophaga

08-08-2008, 07:52 AM

When batting, you should be allowed to choose the aggressive shots a batsman will play. Then link that to the training nets, where you can train them to play individual shots.

Linking to this, you should be able to get some idea of how well a batsman plays each shot, a sort of equivalent to seeing them in the nets.

A similar thing with bowling, saying which variations a bowler should use, and practising specific variations.

acook

08-08-2008, 04:20 PM

More player interaction at the end of a days play/game for example if a batter has not gone on yet again to convert a start there could be an option where you can have a word with him about it and maybe the next time he gets 30 he goes on to get a big score. At lunch you could tell your team to keep the pressure on the batters for the next session. Or tell them to try to get a couple of quick wickets before the end of the day if you've bowled out or declared with an hour to go in the day.

Also why dont keepers ever wear a helmet standing up to the stumps????

Seperate screens should be added for your selection of county championship, one day, t20 and pro40 teams. This would make it so much easier and simpler for thoose who have differnt teams for differnt forms of the game.

qpeedore

08-08-2008, 07:34 PM

I love the idea of interacting with your team during the breaks. Even between matches you could have a "talk" option where you could see what's bugging individual players (too much workload, not able to score runs/take wickets, stuff like that).

Maybe a sort of morale system would help for that, where you would praise players who do well or try to help out players who do badly.

It would be great if you get a little notice from the players themselves concerning their own performances.

Examples:

- A lower order batsman who makes good scores and remains not out for a few innings in a row could ask to be promoted up the order so that he could convert more scores to centuries for the team. (Think Shivnarine Chanderpaul in real life and all the West Indian commentators saying that he should be pushed up the order since over the last year he's had a handful of 50-99 scores not out.)

- A batsman who's not having a good run of form could ask to be dropped down the order so he could face the older ball and play himself in easier.

- Bowlers would say that they are being underused or overused, according to how they perform.

There's an option for batsmen to keep the strike, if they're batting with the tail, for example. An option when you're bowling to automatically set fields so that you try to keep the tailender on strike would be great. If the established batsman is on strike at the start of the over you would give away the singles but with two balls to go you close the field in. Even if it can't be implemented when you're bowling...if it could be done when you're batting it would add a challenge to the game. Like if the game recognises that the established batsman is trying to keep the strike then it would set the field accordingly.

If a bowler is leaking runs an option to encourage him would be good. Or even talk to him...he may say that he's having an off day, that the field is set wrong for how he's bowling, that he needs a break...things along those lines.

After a chance which is given not out (of course this all depends on what level you set your replays at...could be the end of the over if you have your replays on low), there could be a button that you press to have the batsmen talk to each other. Maybe have it near where the match analysis button is currently.

Of course these ideas may seem a little TOO nitpicky to make it into the game...but at least they're up for consideration now.

EDIT: Playing the game now and I just noticed that players who get hit and retire hurt almost always have to be out for a matter of weeks. Would a few variables be added to this so that some injuries are minor and only require a few days instead of weeks?

Myrmecophaga

08-09-2008, 08:18 AM

It would be good if bowlers got a bit of stamina back when they took a wicket, because you can go on bowling longer spells when wickets are falling.

It would be good to have a different default team for the different forms of the game.

acook

08-09-2008, 04:22 PM

qpeedore

08-10-2008, 01:40 AM

The bowler could get a really slight boost of stamina when they take a wicket. I don't think it's being unrealistic. Bowlers regularly fight off fatigue to go for another over if they've previously taken a wicket, especially if they're bowling well.

Myrmecophaga

08-10-2008, 09:16 PM

Douglas Jardine argued that a bowler should always get another over after taking a wicket, no matter how it was taken, logically, that is based purely on the extra life, stamina, that the bowler gets.

Jamie

08-19-2008, 07:38 AM

The one thing that prevents me from buying this game, year after year, is the fact that once a player retires, *poof* - they disappear! Why on earth doesn't this game maintain -all- players' statistics, even after they've retired? A mate of mine plays this religiously and one of his players, Terry Shuttleworth, with whom he became quite obsessed, scored 16,000 test runs at an average of 59 and played till he was 41!

Now good ol' Terry featured in a number of amazing partnerships, scored some match-saving centuries and won the otherwise-hapless Kiwis pretty much 90% of all their victories. But once he'd retired, that was it, apart from the international records screen, to which he'd contributed a couple, he may as well have never existed.

How fantastic would it be to be able to go back, look at his wagon wheel in any particular game he played, see the progression of his average over his test career and even be able to relive actual innings of his! And the thing is, this wouldn't be hard at all - with some fancy in-game compression, you could do all this with another gig or two of HD space, which most computers today would manage with ease.

Please, please do this - there's so much I love about this game, but the one thing that holds me back is this lack of any sense of history perpetrated by a complete disregard for maintaining player records post-retirement...

qpeedore

08-19-2008, 03:49 PM

The ability to declare during intervals would be nice. If it's in there, I haven't seen it yet.

Webbo

08-19-2008, 10:39 PM

I am the 'mate' Jamie refers to in his post above. Terry Shuttleworth was my main man (I've had a few but he was the king), scoring 42 test centuries over a test career spanning 18 long years. He is the legend of NZ cricket and to be honest, I'm gutted I can't flick back to a screen called 'Retired players' or something similar and view his career stats, highest score innings, best partnerships, career strike-rate etc, etc. The list goes on and this game would be brilliant if it had this feature. It is the only reason I am playing the 2005 version of ICC and haven't upgraded to the later versions.

Also, why is ICC not backward compatible in terms of saved games? I have played ICC 2005 for a number of years and am up to around 2065. Should I want to buy 2008's offering, I have to start my whole game again and lose all my history? NO FEAR! A mate of mine who bought the 2008 version has told me that this is indeed the case.

My last gripe to an otherwise extremely entertaining game is the fact that scorecards are also not saveable. Would love to be able to right-click on that WC final scorecard where we won on the last ball and click "Add to classic matches". Would be fantastic if the developers could create a Cric-info type interface!!

Other features I'd love to see would be:
- The ability to declare between sessions
- Not allowing you to continue without selecting a wicketkeeper in the squad (if you accidentally leave them out whilst in a hurry)

There are more but I'll post them when I can remember them.

Please take these comments on board. I'd be very interested to know if Jamie and my points are something that has been looked into previously.

Cheers

qpeedore

08-19-2008, 10:49 PM

Webbo - it's there.

Go to "Fixtures and Results" and select a completed match. You can save not only games you've played, but any game of the season you're currently in (international and county games).

Also, if you don't have a specialist keeper in your squad or you set someone else to wicketkeep, the game says "You have selected a wicket keeper who does not normally play in that position, do you want to continue?"

qpeedore

08-19-2008, 11:54 PM

I'd like to see a better animation for the stumpings. The batsman simply doesn't look that eager to get back into his crease.

I'd also like to see the third umpire involved. I don't believe that's there yet. With the new referral systems in place, use of replays and the TV umpire is essential.

It would be good to have batsmen automatically have the highest aggression level for a free hit.

As I think of more I'll add them...hopefully I have some good ones so far...

Webbo

08-20-2008, 06:36 AM

nah sorry qpeedore i'm going to have to pull you up there re: the keeper thing, it only tells you that as you're going into the match, not when you select your squad. once it's selected you can't go back. if you've inadvertently not selected a keeper in your squad there's not much use in it telling you that you don't have a keeper just before a game now is there?

to your comments:Go to "Fixtures and Results" and select a completed match. You can save not only games you've played, but any game of the season you're currently in (international and county games).

i don't want to see this type of stuff:

2 Mar 2062 - 2nd One Day International
Aus beat Sri L by 35 runs

2 Mar 2062 - 3rd Test Match
England beat WIndies by 60 runs

3 Mar 2062 - 2nd Test Match
India beat P'stan by 2 wickets
SAfrica beat NZ'land by 10 wickets

I WANT SCORECARDS! they can do this but not .txt scorecards? what a joke!

Mongrel

08-20-2008, 06:41 AM

If you click on the match, you can see a scorecard. :)

But I agree, I'd love more records keeping to stop me having to do it myself. I'm lazy like that :p .

Webbo

08-20-2008, 07:58 AM

Yeah i know you can see the scorecard from within the game (only in the current season), but the 'Save' bit only allows you to save the results of the matches. If I'm in say, 2050, and I want to have a look at a game in 2024, why shouldn't I be able to? Just seems odd as all of the data is there already, just needs to be saved...

Mongrel

08-20-2008, 02:09 PM

Ahh I gotchya.

Meanwhile, I can't help but thinking the money available to sides needs to be increased. It's a bit disappointing to see many sides without and international player and people such as Hamish Marshall and Michael Di Venuto being forced to retire after one season because nobody can afford them.

qpeedore

08-20-2008, 07:27 PM

...hmm...it works for me in ICCIII at least. Anytime I try saving cards in 08, the game gives me a dialog box saying that it needs to close. But I did check III and it worked.

You need to select the fixture, bring up the card, and THEN save it. You need to save each innings separately, it looks like, but you have ALL the details there.

An example is attached.

EDIT: As for the keeper thing, do you mean when you select your squad at the start of the season? That would indeed be a good addition.

Bobby

08-21-2008, 02:33 PM

Haven't read through all of the pages in this thread. I imagine its been covered, but the coaching needs a major overhaul,

Perhaps - for a start , have the ability to hire coaches? Secondly , there shouldn't be a limit on how many coaching/net sessions a side can have. When have England only been able to give a net to 8 out of their 11 players?

Also , the other thing , for me, is at county level, I'd like to be able to see/manage my second team. At very least see who's doing well in my second team - and coming up through the youth system.

qpeedore

08-21-2008, 04:54 PM

You can see the form of your players on the second team. You can also see their recent batting and bowling performances.

Perhaps you could be a little more specific?

Bobby

08-21-2008, 09:10 PM

Myrmecophaga

08-21-2008, 10:00 PM

I meant like being able to look at the scorecards , see the coverage like you would with your own match , so you can see where they play their shots , and a full breakdown.

Also , to see how the youngsters were developing.

I would go further and ask for some sort of fixture list etc for them, against (totally fabricated) club sides and other county's second XIs

Manickam

08-27-2008, 12:57 PM

There should be more rain , injuries , show speed of balls and create players.

qpeedore

08-28-2008, 09:49 PM

I think that ball speed would be a good addition also.

Mongrel

08-29-2008, 01:57 AM

From playing a county game for a few seasons, I still think the computer generated scores are a bit off (i.e. far too low). Most List A games see scores of 220 at most and you never see a score of 300+.

Obviously the Twenty20 game also needs a few tweaks.

rishi

08-30-2008, 08:50 AM

Could it be made possible for commentary to include names of players??
So rather than just a great shot for four, it be What a wonderful shot by Ponting. ???

Please advise, if possible for most of the players if not all?

Also the missing match conditions and pitch report commentary at the toss stage !! It was a very good feauture thats removed in 2008 :mad:

Sureshot

09-01-2008, 02:17 PM

I think the commentary using players names would involve a license.

rishi

09-01-2008, 08:13 PM

surely we would be having a license to use their names personal details like birthdate, thn why not in commentary? Dont you think it would really take the level of game up with just ths addition.. sure do know many do play even without commentary or highlights. but still feel, it would be a nice addition.

Also what do you think guys about having to see your players perform in training sessions?? I know it immediately doesnt click as strategy/tactic involved game with that, but certain persistent weaknesses can be spotted or worked out upon?? even for youngsters or 2nd team players :cool:

qpeedore

09-01-2008, 11:37 PM

With names on commentary, the sheer volume of extra data would push the game's size up considerably. It may not be able (at least it would make it harder) to be downloaded if that's the case, and that would lose the company a certain amount of sales from people who download the game.

Simbazz

09-02-2008, 06:28 PM

However, the ability to let people put in commentary would be good!

Isura

09-04-2008, 03:15 AM

Field Settings: They are not realistic for one day and T20 games. Default fields should include sweepers/long off etc for defensive fields like traditional one day fields. Also, it should be easier to push singles (on lower aggression) against defensive fields.

aus5892

09-08-2008, 06:05 AM

Here's an idea regarding 'A/B' teams: Give every nation their second XI team and have them play tours throughout the year (though not necessarily at the same time as your first XI) - you don't have to control them but it would be like a county second XI - what you do is get to pick your own squads for the second XI and maybe even lineups, then it autosims those games for you so that you can see how your batch of youngsters and fringe players go in an international setting.

Another one is that in the county game England always seem to pick full squads for an entire home tour, instead of the standard 12 man squad per test and a 15 man squad for an ODI series. It's annoying when your players get picked and then don't play, for tests particularly it should be the same as when you're playing as an international team, a 12 man squad each game.

rishi

09-08-2008, 08:32 PM

i dont think its most suitale for this thread, but it popped in my head whilst reading here

Q is training and development of players only happening thru human players (using coaching points) or does AI also does so for other of its players through technique training??

If by any chance that is not happening, it makes it relevant to this thread.
I would prefer computer also developing players not just through way of experience but by technique traning and all.

thanks

Mongrel

09-08-2008, 10:49 PM

Actually, I'd like to be able to pick seperate test and one day squads for away tours. I think it's an absolute must that really should've been implemented as far back as 2005.

pyjamarama

09-10-2008, 09:15 PM

I am a huge fan of this game, especially this version but to make it even better it would be fantastic if...

I would definitely like to see domestic leagues for other countries, definitely Aus.

Higher scores in 20-20. More 6's and 50 plus individual scores (even 100's)

Seperate ODI and test squads for tours.

Lions tours and development squads

Knowledge of where you are playing prior to a game and the conditions expected. Never quite sure who to put in a 12 man squad. Also, the game never tells you the venue you are playing at.

Better use of occassional bowlers. Mal Loye and Yousuf bowl about 30 overs between them for Lancs? You also see these types of bowlers given the new ball!

More realistic default AI squads, the squad that NZ sent to England in 08 on the game bore practically no resemblance to the one that was actually sent. Vettori was in the squad but wasn't picked?!

More situation aware batting, particularly AI sides. You should not be farming the strike when needing 8 off 3 balls for instance.

Away teams should always call at the coin toss.

AI teams to use nightwatchmen.

May seem a strange thing to say but theres not enough rain on the game. You never get rain affected one day games, no results, D/L's etc.

Option to move county during game.

Option to have yourself as a player in the game, you'd feel more like a captain if you were actually playing in the game!

Changes/alterations option to one day kits each season.

Third umpire referrals on run outs, as well as run outs that are not just direct hits.

ICC Trophy, world 20-20.

Negotiating schedules with tourists/home country. eg 3 tests, 7 odi's 2 t20's. Not just the default 3 test, 5 odi and 1 t20.

Batsmen crossing for caught dismissals.

Less lbw's and clean bowleds and more wkt keeper/slip catches.

A wider vocab for Aggers!!

Retirements being announced prior to end of season so youth players can be groomed, signings planned.

The option to spend more on coach/physio at the start season screen. Why can't you spend more than £50,000 if you have it??

This is a personal gripe but I wish that when you are playing a county/International game, your domestic side's players are looked after in your absence with physio sessions etc. Whenever I come off England duty, about nine or ten of my Middlesex players are down to like 1 bar of fitness!!

rishi

09-11-2008, 11:04 PM

:cool:very nice points up there!!

Rickripper

09-13-2008, 10:01 AM

Something I noticed that isn't that realistic: A shy at the stumps will always result in a direct hit, I've never seen a batsman be short, but the ball missing the stumps. It's like you have a field of AB De Villiers.

harsh.wasu

09-16-2008, 06:40 PM

hey how about adding a whole new format of the ipl

qpeedore

09-17-2008, 12:51 AM

That would involve money to buy the license. I'm guessing it's not cheap, and it's very possible that the extra cost would come down to us, the consumer.

aus5892

09-17-2008, 08:21 AM

There will possibly be new leagues present in next year's version, depending on the licensing.

Manickam

09-18-2008, 11:49 AM

there should the ball's speed
more injuries
higher scores in 20-20
better training facility

Hootington

09-26-2008, 08:15 PM

I dont know if this is possible, and may be complete rubbish. But i was think about a create your own player type thing. Its probably not a great thing for a manager type game, but it would be a cool addition if you could actually be the captain. You could start off with random skills that you can re-roll, and choose your player, ie, be a bowler, or a batter, or an allrounder. Then you can level up as you perform better, and eventually become the england captain, or whatever country your from. You could have stats like amount of spin, swing, pace, bounce, accuracy, aggresive/defensive shots and then specials like if your a leggy, the specials would be the variation deliveries like a googly or a flipper. I dont know what you think about this idea, but i have a thought of things to build on this idea, so reply to this if you think its any good, or just ignore if its rubbish :)

tenpoundfortytwo

09-29-2008, 04:14 PM

Just had a thought, though i guess it might have been mentioned... what about the speed of the pitch? We've already got turn and movement indicators so why not speed?

Faster pitches would generally mean quicker runs but combined with the pitch moving about would mean people getting skittled for low scores. Slower pitches might be harder to score runs on but also harder for fast bowlers to get wickets.

Places like Sri Lanka, notorious for having slow and low pitches could then be replicated and so could grounds like the WACA and Old Trafford- rapid pitches.

Not sure if this might be a lot of work in terms of game balance, but would definately be cool.

Chewitt

09-29-2008, 04:55 PM

1. I'd love to see you have a backroom staff, where by you could have specified coaches to help with player developent and perhaps the ability to have one of your coaches be a 'scout' and give you a report on the next team you're playing. Ie. Best players, in form players, injuries and unavailalbe players.

2. I don't know about others but i'd find a vice-captain feature very useful indeed, especially when it comes to field settings, i'm not the most knowledgeable person when it comes to fielding layouts so to be able to ask an assistant to do this for me/give advice would be a massive help. This could also be expanded into asking him for his view on the squad, performances etc.

3. The ability to name seperate squads for ODIs and Test Matches, this can't be too hard to implement and links well with my 4th point.

4. There should the ability to recognise specialist ODI, 20-20 and Test Match players and what individual player strengths/weaknesses in each format of the game.

That's all for now.

Screenwriters CC

09-29-2008, 08:15 PM

Lots of great suggestions so far. With so much time dedicated to the game from all those who play it, it is extremely good to see a thread where players of the game can submit improvements to the designers themselves.

My suggestions focus more upon game features rather than game mechanics and here are those that I think are important:

1) When playing as a County Team, I would like to see the seconds team have a proper fixtures list with the ability of seeing scorecards from each match, rather than relying on looking at the averages or individual scores of each player separately. In this you could also see which youth team members are making it in to the extra spaces within the seconds as well, before having the option of signing them at a later stage.

2) Once a county season is finished and your players go off to represent their countries during the winter, I would like to see a feature that makes it much more easier to find out how they all did, rather than going back to each country’s tours and looking at each match or by checking your players scores individually. Possibly the introduction of an International Players Winter Tours page/box could be looked in to, stating the matches your players were picked for, their scores and if they were man of the match for instance.

3) I would join many of the other people within this thread in that I would now like to see the winners of the domestic Twenty20 tournaments (and the IPL if added) enter The Twenty20 Champions League. And the domestic English (and West Indies) (if their domestic league is added) Twenty20 Cup Champions also entering the Stanford Super Series alongside the international teams.

4) This one is possibly particularly important for the next game, if it is released next year. The domestic season in English cricket is about to have some drastic changes as it moves from 2009 in to 2010. In 2010 the English Premier League taking over from the Pro40 Leagues (which will be disbanded) and the Twenty20 Cup will moving to later in the year (although it will still be that tournament that denotes who goes through to the Champions League). Within the game, I would like to see the 2010 season and onwards reflect these changes, although the game having to run one type of season in 2009 and then a different type for the rest of it, may be quite a large problem, I really don't know? If the EPL is added of course, more overseas players must be made available to the counties just for this tournament.

5) I also think it a very good point made many times above, that if your international player is called up or injured, you should be able to sign a replacement. I also think to avoid these scenarios, you should be able to ascertain the prospect of overseas call-ups before you decide whether you want to sign the player or not. On the international players page, it could possibly state that a player will be called up during your season, is likely to be called up, will possibly be called up, probably won't be called up or is not currently featured in the country's plans as well as providing the dates of any call-ups/the games they would miss for you. Actual counties would not sign a player without knowledge of this, so I think it right that we have it in the game. Again not sure how easy or hard this would be to implement.

6) At the end of a domestic season, it lists the tournament winners and a very few of the best performers. I would like to see more stats such as most runs and wickets for each different format of the game plus the most victims by a keeper again in each format as well as an overall tally in each discipline. I know these stats can be looked up on the player details page, but there is a sense of pride if a player of yours makes it on to that end of season box!

7) I also think a nice International Feature would be to have the ICC awards every year to include all of their usual awards such as Batsman, Bowlers, Captain, Emerging Player of the year as well as naming their Test and ODI Teams of the year. If this is integrated in to the game, I think it equally important that the nominees be named as well.

8) Regarding the players’ profile page, season-by-season stats would be a useful addition as well, rather than just “current”, “last season” and “career”. I would also like to see it list the awards/tournaments they have won during their career.

9) I have to say that I agree on the rained off matches, no results and D/L suggestions as well, which have been commented on many times already…

10) I would also like to see the yearly PCA awards added to the end of the English Domestic Season as well, with all of their awards, teams of the year, MVPs and the sixes league (which of course doesn't have to be sponsored by Sky within this game!). And referencing point eight, with any awards won then being shown within the winner's profile page as well. And linking to the PCA and possibly the strangest request although it would be a very nice feature, would be for the PCA MVP Rankings be available all year-round, but that would involve learning and implementing their formula.

11) Several teams (both domestic and international) now have an entirely different Twenty20 kit compared to their one-day kit. Will these be implemented as well?

12) Going for realism, longer and more substantial injuries could be added in to the game. Some injuries as you know can be season length and older players (especially bowlers) could be more susceptible to these.

I have to also add that I would support the previous suggestions of the away team calling the coin toss, the county caps (and going along with Point 8 again, if awarded, it should be mentioned on their profile and for which team(s)), the ability to be fired from your team due to bad performance/deciding to move county during the game, higher scores in OD and T20 formats, some players (but not all) announcing their retirement before it happens (for example: a player announces that this will be his last season or that he will retire at the end of a season) and the hiring of specific coaching staff with all of the players benefiting from training. Going with my Point 12, the recovery from injuries could depend on the ability of your strength and conditioning coach for instance and users would get an estimate from this coach once an injury happens. The reliability of the coach's estimate again could come down to their own abilities/strengths and experience.

Chewitt

09-29-2008, 09:40 PM

Very good suggestions there SWCC, however from what i understand the game seems to be produced on a fairly limited budget which is a shame as there's so much room to make it an even better game. So i imagine new features will have to be implemented in dribs and drabs. Of course they may prove me wrong with the next realise but i remain sceptical.

Sureshot

09-30-2008, 04:31 PM

5) I also think it a very good point made many times above, that if your international player is called up or injured, you should be able to sign a replacement. I also think to avoid these scenarios, you should be able to ascertain the prospect of overseas call-ups before you decide whether you want to sign the player or not. On the international players page, it could possibly state that a player will be called up during your season, is likely to be called up, will possibly be called up, probably won't be called up or is not currently featured in the country's plans as well as providing the dates of any call-ups/the games they would miss for you. Actual counties would not sign a player without knowledge of this, so I think it right that we have it in the game. Again not sure how easy or hard this would be to implement.

I thought that players weren't available for selection if they faced international call ups throughout the season?

10) I would also like to see the yearly PCA awards added to the end of the English Domestic Season as well, with all of their awards, teams of the year, MVPs and the sixes league (which of course doesn't have to be sponsored by Sky within this game!). And referencing point eight, with any awards won then being shown within the winner's profile page as well. And linking to the PCA and possibly the strangest request although it would be a very nice feature, would be for the PCA MVP Rankings be available all year-round, but that would involve learning and implementing their formula.

I imagine that something like the Sky Sports Sixes League is copyrighted. It's an interesting idea though and would be a good side-feature of the game.

Screenwriters CC

10-01-2008, 03:13 PM

I thought that players weren't available for selection if they faced international call ups throughout the season?

Thanks for the feedback Sureshot. In answer to your question, most overseas players still make it on to the available transfer/signings list at the end/beginning of the season (when choosing your new players) and some that will definitely receive a call-up if their international team faces games during the domestic season. Some however you can be unsure of (especially when you're at the stage of all new/computer made players) and that's why I think it should specify their international status at that stage (in the way suggested in my previous post above) as well bringing in the ability to find a replacement if a player does get called up during your season.

Sureshot

10-04-2008, 11:00 AM

Maybe knowing the fixtures of their countries for the next season would be useful?

Mongrel

10-05-2008, 03:55 AM

OK, after playing a few years with my Australia game I have a couple of suggestions about the match engine.

Scores need to be higher for the computer games. Too often do you see teams bundled out for sub-200 in ODIs and you very (and I mean very) rarely see games where a team scores over 300 (even against minnows). Surely you have to put in the possibility of teams scoring that highly. The same goes for sixes - it is an improvement, but too often do I see centuries in List A games where there are no maximums. There needs to be a broadening of the number of sixes that can be hit - perhaps on the odd occasion someone goes nuts and hits ten sixes in an innings ala Hayden vs. New Zealand.

Also I find that the averages of computer batsmen are too low. If you worked on the basis that in test cricket these days, the par batting average for a batsman is around 35-40. For bowlers, the general average is 30-32 with some higher and some lower. This game sees too many test cricketers averaging 25-30, and too many bowlers averaging sub-25. It is an improvement, but not enough IMO.

Also I'd like to see some computer selection and tactics stuff cleaned up a bit. Aaron Redmond will never bat at eight for New Zealand, so there is little point allowing an opener to bat there. I'd also like to see better use of the fifth or six bowler - if I play five bowlers in a test and simulate it for interests sake, the lowest ranked bowler rarely gets a trundle. It is the same for sixth bowlers in ODIs.

Also regarding bowling in ODIs, I'd like to see selection altered so teams rarely pick five front-line bowlers. No team these days bats only down to number six unless necessary, so maybe it is better to introduce the idea of more bits-and-pieces all-rounders in ODI sides or more part-time bowling batsmen (like a Jayasuriya, Gayle, or Clarke).

Would also like to see a reduction of boundaries in the middle overs of ODIs and an increase in singles and twos. Also, the T20 engine needs some real work IMO.

With some alterations to the engine, this game will keep on going from strength to strength. As I've said earlier, I play this a fair bit so I'd be more than happy to help with testing. :)

Isura

10-07-2008, 01:53 AM

I have started playing Out park baseball, and one feature I LOVE is teh historical leagues. Basically you can start in any year since 1877 and the database has every player from history. I realize it's a lot of work to create the databases, but a database editor would make this a feasible project for the community.

Isura

10-07-2008, 01:54 AM

Yes, I agree with Mongrel. Batsmen do too poorly on autoplay, and bowlers do too well.

Typical Stroke

10-10-2008, 05:48 PM

I like to see
ranking points for county players and a seperate ranking system of County Season
career strike rates for all players
list of all players and their records who have played in my team
ICC champions Trophy, Twenty20 worldcup, IPL and ICL in the calendar
more statistics and records
At the end of season a list of all retired players
list of all Englad Contracted players

spaniel89

10-12-2008, 02:49 AM

there are some very good points, i must say though that, if you are an experienced player of the games, you will know which international players are on international duty the following summer, for example when the ashes are on in the summer of 2009,the indian and pakistani players are available. Then the year after the aussies are available so on and so forth. that does take alot of playing the game and looking at the international calendar. One good point is the change of aggression in twenty/20 matches, and the need of some big hits! one thing i would like is just a match reflection, say if ur struggling at 200-8 chasing 300 and pull off a victory, just a report on it. not saying that a media addition would be a great idea, but it it would help with the finding out fixtures, how international and county players are doing, sort of a scoreboard then a little match description underneath.
I know that there is a form rating, however a rating for morale would not go a miss, form can be quickly regained if the player has high morale, this could also implement on team morale? any way the game gets better every year, although the little men on icc2002 remains one of the best games ever

Snowman

10-15-2008, 05:23 PM

Like the idea of showing a bowlers pace, hope this will be related to his stamina eg. tired player bowling slower than when he is fresh. Would like to see training having a more visual affect on a player either with red/green arrows or whithin there form. Editor would be an excellent edition, this has worked well in other managment games I have played. More youth players on cheaper contracts would also be good.

benster

10-15-2008, 06:24 PM

Hi,

Having played the new version of the game (and every version since the game game out), it seems like there are a few minor issues which, if sorted out, would make the game amazing.

Issue 1 - Better stats

Most people who play the game love statistics. But what the game lacks is a really good historical database that best records your best players and performances ever. It would seem to me that this would be a simple function, and would only have to record things like the top ten of:
- most runs ever
- most wickets ever
- most tests/odi's played
- highest ever player rankings
- best bowling
- partnerships for each wicket etc
- most runs/wickets in 2, 3, 4 and 5 test test series
- and similar functions to the above for ODIs.

just the typical stuff that people can check up on and see who their best players over their managing time has been.

And, also, a player's career strike rate should be recorded (which should have an impact on the aggressive/defensive style recorded against the player).

Issue 2 - Prejudgment of cheap youth team players

One other thing which bugs me is that the game does not properly allow certain players to develop.

What I mean by this is that the game is pre-disposed to disliking certain players. For instance, I had a batsman who averaged 55 FC and 50 in OD domestic. However, he was not one of those batsman who you buy from the youth team for an exorbitant amount of money. The game never requires him to be paid/demand over £30,000 pounds and he is never selected by the computer for the test side (yes, sometimes i choose to just stay playing the domestic competition), even though he is statistically better than all other players.

I'm not sure why this problem exists, but it just annoys me. It is like the game does not take into account players who don't demand huge money when they are in youth team - which adds to the predicatability of which players are good etc...

Issue 3 - Allow county sides to select players from local competitions

If a youth is picked for a county side, it is generally a call up from performing well in lower competitions. Each county should be able to view 30+ players and their performances during a cricket season and, if the squad requires it, call up a player for a match or so.

Let me know what you think.

PS - i have billions of other ideas... just none off the top of my head...

adyhorn

10-15-2008, 08:32 PM

Maybe to resemble real life, have some empty seats for county matches.

Typical Stroke

10-16-2008, 03:16 AM

I have all games of ICC since 2001 and I also love to statistics but there is no change in the statistics in the game since 2001.
I am 100% agree with u benster

Typical Stroke

10-17-2008, 03:44 AM

Chris what about more and detailed statistics?

Knoxen

10-17-2008, 09:26 AM

In light of Sachin Tendulkar's record breaking amount of test runs, I was wondering how hard would it be to do the same, have like a record breaking runs alert, or a batsman hitting say 1,000 runs going up in increments - like 2,000 etc...

And the same with a bowler - i.e. 100 test wickets, 100 ODI wickets etc. etc.

Just a thought :)

acook

10-17-2008, 07:34 PM

"Very limited management game. First thing they need to do is get a far greater database of players. Listing 30 potential signings at the end of the season is woefully inadequate. The development team should take a leaf out of Champo's huge database system - finding hidden gems in obscure places. They should do the following: Stats for players. Potential signings in local leagues and schools. Scouts? Youth development officers? Assembly of your own staff - bat, bowl, WK, fielding, fitness, head and youth coaches. Computer analysis, tactician, groundstaff, media officer etc. Control over stadia, advertising, contracts, 2nd team, youth team, academy. This game barely scratches the surface. I might give it 2 stars solely because it is the only cricket management game I have found."

Just one of the reviews which says this. Couldn't agree more. This game has the potential to be excellent which it isnt anywhere near atm. local leagues and schools and scouts are a must for next year. The game is basically the same as the 1st version apart from a few small changes and a shoddy 3D game. Lets change it abit next year aye?

rishi

10-27-2008, 03:17 PM

To add a feature that reads into players' habits and 'Dismissal Types', so as to make better decisions during gameplay.
This would increment the fun factor of planning out bowling stategies. Also training of batsmen in particuar.

Regarding training of bowlers, as of now thats on a vague guess, don't think the added feature of 'bowling training' is being optimised.
May be bowling weakness pin pointed. Surely the many-a-times requested feature of the training effectiveness meter would be very helpful, especially for technique training.

The weakness aspect could be highligheted even for the batting (along with the strengths).
Weakness could be tendency to hit the bowl in air despite the same shot being batsman's strength.

A pitchmap of a bowler's performance in a test match, to understand the consistency and best length/line for a particular bowler.
Some user control on trick delieveries. Would prefer to keep the trick deleivery in stock for a new batsman on crease rather waste on a settled batsman.

Definetely, information is required on a pre-match/team selection stage, of the stadium/city, conditions (currently only for home matches), a separate screen for selected 11 with their individual profiles (averages) and may be a probables list of opponent team.
Whilst on a tour or series, option be given to view averages and stats only for that particular series.

Retired players stats to be kept at all costs. This hurts bad, to see nation's best performer completeley disappear from game in few years time.

Addition of the yearly end awards to best batsman/best bowler (on basis of no. of man of match performances), best youngster/rookie of the year, best all rounder, Most Valuable Player.

qpeedore

10-31-2008, 03:37 AM

Love that last post. It may be hell to implement, but it would be great to see.

Manickam

11-02-2008, 06:26 AM

show the most no. of wickets and runs in the season every time.

G1inger

11-05-2008, 10:53 AM

Forgive me for labouring the point, but most of all i would like to see a database at the start of the 09 season which is in date at......shock horror......the start of the 09 season!

Isura

11-07-2008, 12:40 AM

A few more suggestions.

1) Different player rating display.

I know there is are arguments for or against showing actual player skill ratings in the game. I think there is a good middle ground: Give us the option, and even with tiers or ratings. For example:

Assume 'actual' ratings is 100. This is whatever scale the game uses to calculate the results.

Allow us to display

1-100 scale
1-20 scale
1-10
1-5 stars
None

This is a super simple way to program difficulty levels into the game.

2) Player potential ratings
I like the idea of showing current and potential ratings of players. This is useful in evaluating young talent. Obviously complete precision takes the fun out, but a simple 1-5 type scale (or a tied display system like #1) would work.

3) Scouting system. Instead of showing actual ratings, teams pay a scout who evaluate the skills all players. Scouting is never 100% accurate (and accuracy can depend on scout's skill). This brings a degree of doubt and variability in the game.

drsbravo

11-10-2008, 03:38 AM

I have been playing this game from its inception and I like this game and recommend it to all my freinds, as other games have improved icc has gotten from better to worst. There are no new features few new players and database is all wrong. It is very dissappointing man.

When the game starts ajantha mendis hasnt played a match when in real life he was a legend.

Few features like the ability to sort data are absent from icc 08 which were present in past and were really helpful so have them in 2009.

The ability to save team selection as *.sel is also absent have it in 2009.

And please make a editor for 2009.

There are no online players ever why whats wrong.

And why can we have only one overseas player when the real teams have two.

So please make 2009 a worthwhile experience otherwise its not worth it just release a database update.

Love
Sandy bravo

chrisap

11-10-2008, 06:44 AM

how about being able to see One Day or ODI records in team details as well as FC/Test and also having a records screen like the world ratings screen. You could have Test Runs, Centuries, Matches, Wickets, Best bowling innings, best bowling match, same for First Class, and for One Day/ODI same but just best bowling instead of match and innings.

Isura

11-10-2008, 07:19 AM

COuple more big issues.

1) Player development.
Currently development is too predictable and not really accurate. Others have said over the years that players peak at ~27, but I haven't experienced this. I find that batsmen have their best statistical years between 30-35. Then there is a huge drop off from 35+. I think player development is too important to overlook. I'd like to see this based on historical data.

2) Injuries.
Bowlers should get injured a lot more than batsmen. Fast bowlers especially should have season and career ending injuries, as well as persistent and reoccuring ones (Shane Bond anyone?). Like player development, this should be based on some real data.

3) Fatigue
Besides in game fatigue, there should be a persistent fatigue level. Players get injured more often when fatigued. And you can't run your bowlers into the ground without consequences.

Typical Stroke

11-10-2008, 07:49 AM

Is it possible to auto save the game after every ball or over instead of every match. Is it not possible than after every inning of the match.

aus5892

11-10-2008, 09:51 AM

You can still save it during the game, but autosave would slow the game down. Just click save and exit, but click the option below save & exit when it comes up with the options.

Ankur Lathwal

11-11-2008, 06:59 AM

Dear Chris Child,
There are have been a lots of suggestions this thread........i have read all of them
and have summarissed in three points only

1)There is a definite need of introducing other domestic leagues.There are thousands of ICC lovers in the other parts of the world other than England,so you should think of all of them too.May be u can go step-by-step,like including Australian domestic cricket in ICC 2009...and of another country in the next version.This would definitely helf i think & all the lovers including me will be satisfied.

2)There has been a lot of debate ragarding the editor.I think you should build a team editor that modifies the teams and the squads so that we can create our own country's domestic teams ourselves.For example, ihave edited ICC 2002 and replaced the county sides with IPL & ICL sides using the magpie editor and i am really enjoying playing.You were saying that it would ruin the game realism , i think it would effect that user only who edits...rather than the all.

3)And still if you don'y agree for the editor, there another idea,you can make editors for the previous versions like ICC 2005,ICC 2006 and ICC 3......and this way the onlines games don't get affected(if i am right).

I hope you consider my points

Regards

Ankur Lathwal