changes I recommend in ICC

[habib]

1.There should be a separate option of world records in which the records of retired players should be included
We play for such long periods to make records and once a player gets retired all of his records are gone...
2.There should be a field setting for medium pace bowlers in which wicket keeper can move up near the wickets for stumping.
3.Speed of the bowlers should be shown on the screen.
4.Players ability to hit sixes could be improved once he gets the rhythem.
5.There should be more young players and the ability of youth players should be affected by training.
6.There should be options to challange umpire's decisions.
7.T20 world cup should be included in ICC
8.Graphics need to be more like real
9.Just as the batsman's strike rate ,bowler's strike rate (getting wicket after how many balls) should also be the part of player's analysis.
It will heelp you to pick a good bowler among youths.
10.If any of your batsman starts bowling regularly and have good bowling avg.then his status should be changed automatically from a batsman to an all rounder and vise versa.
It will create an extra interest .
11.If an overseas player is called up for international duty ,we should be given an option to hire some other international player.
It will be more like reality .
12.If an overseas player play continuously 4 three years from a county team,he should be given a status ''K''
13.domestic competetions of RSA and AUS should also be included in the new version.We could have a choice to select any of the domestic competetion like England or Aus.
It will be more like an international game if u include domestic competetions of other countries as well ....if not all atleast Aus should be included in first step
14.Minimum age of the youth player should be 17.
usually youth players have age 19-23and very rarely 18 .It should be 17 so that we can make a player who could play for 20 years or so like sachin did.
15.In T20 matches ,player settings to hit sixes should be increased.

[Typical Stroke]

All recomendatios are very nice and should be included in next icc version.

[habib]

All recomendatios are very nice and should be included in next icc version.

Yeah
Thanks for appreciation
It was my first time on childish things forums and I am happy to be a part of it

[habib]

In the new versions ...after every 10/15 years a new country should be given the ODI status and seeing team's performance it should be given test status.
Is it a good suggestion?what u say?

[habib]

plz write down ur comments about my recommendations

[habib]

Kindly reply about the suggestions you like the most and why?

[Cakewalker]

Some of these are good. My thoughts:

1. I like the record retention option, I played ICC 2001 Ashes a lot, and always hated to say goodbye to Mike Atherton and the rest.
Maybe a hall of fame or something?

6. Challenging umpires is crap in the actual game of cricket, and I wouldn't like to see it here.

11. I don't think internationals get called up. You can hire them if they're available for the whole season. At least, I've never had one called up...

12. I don't think you understand what K is. It applies to players from countries who have certain agreements with the EU, usually South African, Windies, and Zimbabwean players have this. K stands for Kolpak (refers to the Court ruling I think), and allows these players to play in the EU under the freedom of travel section and not count as international players.

13. As for the graphics, I don't play this game for the graphics. Place too much emphasis on this makes the game files unnecessarily large.

[Cyril Washbrook]

11. I don't think internationals get called up. You can hire them if they're available for the whole season. At least, I've never had one called up...
I've had a couple called up in the past, so these days I'm cautious about the international player whom I choose.

12. I don't think you understand what K is. It applies to players from countries who have certain agreements with the EU, usually South African, Windies, and Zimbabwean players have this. K stands for Kolpak (refers to the Court ruling I think), and allows these players to play in the EU under the freedom of travel section and not count as international players.
With regard to Kolpak players, a couple of things that perhaps should be fixed up are that (1) the game ought to generate new Kolpak players... at present, no new Kolpak players emerge beyond those already in the database, and (2) Kolpak players should eventually qualify to play for England.

[ICClover]

I imagine a lot of changes are not workable because of cost and also because of a domino effect of potential bugs. I know this from experience having been a tester for CM3 in 2002. However, I would like to see one change come in - and this is that the players have personality. At the moment, they are all robotic. It would be nice if morale played a role in performance - both good and bad. It should be simple to bring in and not cause any other problems

[ICClover]

Yes, and one other change - we need far more realistic T20 scores. At the moment, 120 seems good.

[habib]

ok
atlast I got some comments on my post
I am happy 2 have ur thoughts
You can give ur suggestions as well as some of the members did

[Sureshot]

1.There should be a separate option of world records in which the records of retired players should be included
We play for such long periods to make records and once a player gets retired all of his records are gone...
2.There should be a field setting for medium pace bowlers in which wicket keeper can move up near the wickets for stumping.

I like this idea, having the option to send the keeper up to the stumps for medium pacers keeps up with modern times. Something I think we will discuss for the future.
3.Speed of the bowlers should be shown on the screen.
4.Players ability to hit sixes could be improved once he gets the rhythem.
This is in the game.
5.There should be more young players and the ability of youth players should be affected by training.
This is in the game.
6.There should be options to challange umpire's decisions.
Difficult, once it's all set in stone that the whole of the cricket world is doing this, then we might implement it. But till that happens, no point when some series are being used for what is a trial method.
7.T20 world cup should be included in ICC
Good suggestion.
8.Graphics need to be more like real
We invested in a new 3D graphics engine for ICC3, it's been improved on for 08. It depends on what you are asking for, don't expect any Crysis matching graphics from us.
9.Just as the batsman's strike rate ,bowler's strike rate (getting wicket after how many balls) should also be the part of player's analysis.
It will heelp you to pick a good bowler among youths.
Good suggestion for the future, the information is there in the player profile (balls bowled and wickets taken), for now you'll have to use a calculator! Would be nice to see if we could put it in, in the future.
10.If any of your batsman starts bowling regularly and have good bowling avg.then his status should be changed automatically from a batsman to an all rounder and vise versa.
It will create an extra interest .
Not sure if we can change player types like that. Or if it would even be possible.
11.If an overseas player is called up for international duty ,we should be given an option to hire some other international player.
It will be more like reality .
It would be more realistic, though I often find reality to be very tedious. As a county fan (Sussex) I'd hate to have one of these players who plays about 4 matches, then goes away, gives me no satisfaction of them being a part of the team. Less of the rant though, we'll look at it for future development.
12.If an overseas player play continuously 4 three years from a county team,he should be given a status ''K''
The Kolpak rule only exists for countries who have an EU trading link with us, like South Africa. Players can qualify for a British passport if they meet the requirements of being a citizen (I think Ian Harvey was rejected it due to a criminal prosecution) and have spent four years in the country to "qualify".
13.domestic competetions of RSA and AUS should also be included in the new version.We could have a choice to select any of the domestic competetion like England or Aus.
It will be more like an international game if u include domestic competetions of other countries as well ....if not all atleast Aus should be included in first step
iirc, Australian domestic set-up was including in ICC2002 (correct me if I'm wrong). More extensive domestic set-ups would be nice, South Africa's would be difficult to do due to lack of information on it.
14.Minimum age of the youth player should be 17.
usually youth players have age 19-23and very rarely 18 .It should be 17 so that we can make a player who could play for 20 years or so like sachin did.
15.In T20 matches ,player settings to hit sixes should be increased.


I've answered in bold, and tried to answer as fully as I possibly can. Thanks for your feedback. :)

[habib]

I dont agree that 120 is the realistic score for T20 matches
Bcz in real in most of the matches the scores are beyond 150
And
My point is there should be more number of sixes in T20 matches
Do u agree?:rolleyes:

[Cakewalker]

Yeah, you need a four year residency. Stuart Law got this a while back. Harvey was rejected because of an old drink driving conviction.

I think Habib just wants to hit sixes... there's more to the game than that! I'm not a fan of 20/20 anyway.

I remember in one of the old games, I was playing as Lancs, and Murali was the starting international, you get him for one season, and then can't hire him for years because he has international commitments.

[habib]

Yeah, you need a four year residency. Stuart Law got this a while back. Harvey was rejected because of an old drink driving conviction.

I think Habib just wants to hit sixes... there's more to the game than that! I'm not a fan of 20/20 anyway.

I remember in one of the old games, I was playing as Lancs, and Murali was the starting international, you get him for one season, and then can't hire him for years because he has international commitments.

Why u think I want to hit sixes only????
I am just talikng about more like reality
In reality u hit more sixes in T20 games....u have six sixes in one over and u cant do that in this game at all
Most of the players who made fifties or score 70 plus hit atleast 3 or 4 sixes but its quite rare in this game
Do you understand what I mean now??

[Cakewalker]

Yes, but how many times has that happened? I think 2 or 3 times in the history of first class cricket, and maybe once (Broad I think) in 20/20.

The instances you cite are exceptional. They are possible in the game. But look at the average scores for teams and players. Good players average in the thirties. Fifties are excellent, hundreds rare. This is a realistic(ish), and the 20/20 comp is a sideshow in real life cricket.

[habib]

Yes, but how many times has that happened? I think 2 or 3 times in the history of first class cricket, and maybe once (Broad I think) in 20/20.

The instances you cite are exceptional. They are possible in the game. But look at the average scores for teams and players. Good players average in the thirties. Fifties are excellent, hundreds rare. This is a realistic(ish), and the 20/20 comp is a sideshow in real life cricket.

But it happened many times that u hit 3 sixes or 4/5 fours in one over in one day games or T 20 but its not happening in the game even when the batsman is well set.
In T20 real matches ,its rare to have 120 score .
Most of the time the score is 150 plus...:p

[the_trademarc]

Well Chris has now said that they have completely rebuilt the T20 engine, so hopefully you get a more realistic outcome to T20 matches. It will be interesting to see how they implemented IPL into the ICC2009.

[SMX11FOX]

The things i would improve:
1) Bring back photos- some of these were just hilarious
2) Training- it is simply annoying that you cant train the whole squad, i want a training system where their is more than just batting practice, batting technique etc.. their should be a schedule that all the players have and fielding practice as well.
3) Transfers- I agree with comments that if your overseas player is called up you should be able to find a suitable replacement (and the salary tweaked) i think that there should be a sort of free agent list where you can give trials to players.
4) Budgets- the whole budget aspect to the game is very basic and should be improved.
5) Coaching staff- these should be put into the game as part of the improved training.

I could go on for a long time but i wont. Overall i would want a shift towards the FM style of game, with a large database of players and similar styles for the above improvements. I know that ICC is based around easy to pick up and play but it has just got boring in my opinion. No major improvements in gameplay or to the part of the game outside of matches throughout its lifespan. If some of these are addressed it really should become a lot better game overall.

[SMX11FOX]

Another thing i forgot, i would like an introduction of some stats and i wanna see the reverse sweep :D

[habib]

Another thing i forgot, i would like an introduction of some stats and i wanna see the reverse sweep :D

Yeah
Thanks for ur comments
And personally I like ur suggestion....its really very cool
Many players are doing this these days not only in one day but also in test cricket
I remember Younis Khan made his triple century on reverse sweep:confused:

[Scritty]

Yes, but how many times has that happened? I think 2 or 3 times in the history of first class cricket, and maybe once (Broad I think) in 20/20.



Well 6 6's yes. But 3+ in one over has now happened over 10 times in T20 internationals. (Gibbs alone has done it twice, Mascarenhas etc)

Given there have been relatively few T20 internationals, then the amount of times you get 3+6's in an over is quite high.

2+ in an over is so common that it's not even recorded.

I have never had 2 in an over in ICC2008 (and am now simming in 2084).

Also Habib mentions quuite a few other points, some seem at least "well thought out" if not immediately appealing to me.

It's a bit discourteous to dismiss his ideas as "just wants more 6's"

Let's have a debate about everything :)

Paul

[Scritty]

Yeah
Thanks for ur comments
And personally I like ur suggestion....its really very cool
Many players are doing this these days not only in one day but also in test cricket
I remember Younis Khan made his triple century on reverse sweep:confused:

Agree, on both counts.

The overhead flip, switch hit (hand swap) and reverse sweep are now played by a couple of players in about every team. Watching Dilshan yesterday , he seemed to get stuck on the overhead flip. But several Egland players (not known for inventive new play) play it. Notably Eoin Morgan

Also stats.

We want stats, and we want them to last (so we can measure progress from season to season)

I'll stop now ;)


Pail

[Scritty]

1) Bring back photos- some of these were just hilarious

Yes they add a lot to immersion. Esspecially when the current players have all retired. Renaming and having photos is great. Don't care if the original game comes with none. I want the ability to put my own in. (Including the mug shots from the teams I play for - that really adds to the immersion)

2) Training- it is simply annoying that you cant train the whole squad

Yes - the artifical constraint is there for gameplay reasons (to make you have to make choices about who to train). But for realism ..well I train every week. We all get coaching. It's not "You 8 get coaching, the rest we haven't got the resource" The nerf to gameplay is the issue. The decision you make is linked to the reward of individual player improvement. If all were coached, you might as well not have a coaching aspect - it would just be a "given"

However, there is probably a more subtle mechanic that could be used. Perhaps based on the quality of coaching, and individual coaching points (something the game has started to bring in). I like the idea of improved coaching though.


3) Transfers- I agree with comments that if your overseas player is called up you should be able to find a suitable replacement

Again, this is very common in real life. Some years Worcester have had 4 overseas players. (not ideal, but it happened) Certainly some counties sandwich a T20 specialist in for June. I would like to see this, but not as a priority

4) Budgets- the whole budget aspect to the game is very basic and should be improved.

I replied to someone yesterday who talked about players dissapearing from the game (I think it was specifically Alistair Cook) This is a fault of the basic bugetting in the game. He wants £60,000 + No county can afford it - he leaves the game (in the posters case this was before the 2009 season)

Ok some players leave the game young, but not 24 year olds, and not for this reason. I have had games where several England players play an overseas tour, come back, try and re-contract, can't be afforded , and leave the game. In one year Broad, Panesar and Strauss left cricket straight after a succesful England tour (this was 2009 I think)

Budgets really need a fix

5) Coaching staff- these should be put into the game as part of the improved training.

See point 2. This mechanic would be better than the coaching point mechanic.

I could go on for a long time but i wont. Overall i would want a shift towards the FM style of game, with a large database of players and similar styles for the above improvements.

ICC will never have a database as large as FM. Simply because there are no where near the number of professional cricketers to fill it.

FM proves a valid point though. Games with complexity, that scale according to how much you want to do, but are basically VERY deep, sell by the bucketload.

People are not scared off by FM (or OOTP for that matter) far from it. Scalable interaction (via assistant managers and certain game mechanics that can be left to autorun, or tinkered with if you want) make FM and OOTP the massive success' they are.

FM is the second biggest PC franchise ever(after...sadly Sims :( ).

Complexity definately does NOT scare people off or make the game unplayable. Depth with scaleability and a good GUI work.

Lets hope ICC moves this way.

Paul

[MarksNotts]

Things i would like to see improved :-
1) Pre Season fixtures......this was included in an older version(ICC2000 i think) but didnt continue, it gives the chance to try out youngsters and help get players into nick before the season starts, just as in real life......a University match, maybe a 3 day game against another county or minor county.
2) Overseas player replacement if current one is called up for international duty......as mentioned in a few other posts this needs to be implemented as in reality it is happening all the time, most counties now have more than one throughout the season.
3) Players vanishing from the game........this needs to be addressed, as Scritty mentions above, having players like Cook/Broad etc just going missing because counties cant afford there salary is ridiculous.
4) Stats....... yes we need more!!!!!
5) Photos and Logos.......i think these both added to the immersion of the game, i think it was licensing issues that got rid of these, but it would be nice if we could add these ourselves.
6) I would also like to see England A/Lions games included and U19 fixtures.

[the_trademarc]

1. I think Aus5892 has already said this won't be a feature, disappointing but it kinda makes sense, they would need to add a whole lotta extra players and stats into the database to allow for Uni Teams.
2. This is a great idea, and frankly quite overdue. I now cannot select the best international player for fear they will be called up. We should also be able to select up to three international players in our squad, but only play one in the starting XI at a time. That way, we can select a Test player, OD -player, and even a 20/20 specific player. Salary cap issues will arise with this however.
3. Could not agree more. Something needs to be done about this.
4. We can never have enough stats in this game. I wonder what new features they have programmed into the engine this time around.
5. I think this hopefully has been resolved in terms of the grounds and venues. I seriously doubt in today's world players and the Cricket Board would happily give consent for game makers to use official photos in games. It would have been feasible in 2001/02, but the legal world has changed so much since then. I wouldn't be holding my breath for it.
6. Unfortunately I don't see this happening. Like I mentioned before, it just means more time and space and effort spent getting players, details and all that for U/19 and upcoming players.

Personally, I hope the commentary and graphics have been updated too. I'd love to hear the good lad Mark Nicholas have a crack at the commentary, although I'd dare say he'd be too busy and too expensive for such a project.

I think I'm not the only one here when I say, I can't wait to play that first delivery: it should be great.

[MarksNotts]

I think I'm not the only one here when I say, I can't wait to play that first delivery: it should be great.[/QUOTE]

Agreed!!!!!

[habib]

Well 6 6's yes. But 3+ in one over has now happened over 10 times in T20 internationals. (Gibbs alone has done it twice, Mascarenhas etc)

Given there have been relatively few T20 internationals, then the amount of times you get 3+6's in an over is quite high.

2+ in an over is so common that it's not even recorded.

I have never had 2 in an over in ICC2008 (and am now simming in 2084).

Also Habib mentions quuite a few other points, some seem at least "well thought out" if not immediately appealing to me.

It's a bit discourteous to dismiss his ideas as "just wants more 6's"

Let's have a debate about everything :)

Paul

Thanks
yeah ,I mean exactly the stuff u said
I have read ur suggestions as well and all are really very nice
Must be implemented sooner :)

[Imager36]

Personally, I hope the commentary and graphics have been updated too. I'd love to hear the good lad Mark Nicholas have a crack at the commentary, although I'd dare say he'd be too busy and too expensive for such a project.


What's wrong with Aggers? I'd love to get a bit of Boycott being grumpy on there as well though :P

and I have had 2 6's in an over twice, but it needs to be made far more common

[Scritty]

What's wrong with Aggers? I'd love to get a bit of Boycott being grumpy on there as well though :P

and I have had 2 6's in an over twice, but it needs to be made far more common


If I could choose any. Then Arlott and Benaud for the tests with Boycott and.......Navjot Singh Sidhu for the ODI's

The last pair together were the funniest commentery I ever heard. Sidhu' is like Eric Cantona with his totally off the wall home spun philosophies and wierd sayings. When he commentated with Geoff I had to shove a cushion in my mouth to stop laughing out loud.

[Scritty]

What's wrong with Aggers? I'd love to get a bit of Boycott being grumpy on there as well though :P

and I have had 2 6's in an over twice, but it needs to be made far more common


If I could choose any. Then Arlott and Benaud for the tests with Boycott and.......Navjot Singh Sidhu for the ODI's

The last pair together were the funniest commentery I ever heard. Sidhu' is like Eric Cantona with his totally off the wall home spun philosophies and wierd sayings. When he commentated with Geoff I had to shove a cushion in my mouth to stop laughing out loud.

As for photo's. I would be more than happy with just the placeholders. even an option where the run worm is now (approx where the photo's used to be). Add your own. I really can't see any issues with that, either programming wise or in terms of copyright. :)

Great points here all told. Though the same ones (dissapearing players, stats, 6's, photo's and some extra depth) crop up again and again. None of these seem particularly challenging. Perhaps Chris could take a leaf from the guys who program EvE Online..and give the fanbase (within reason) what it wants.

I mean - it's a thought :confused:


Paul

[habib]

If I could choose any. Then Arlott and Benaud for the tests with Boycott and.......Navjot Singh Sidhu for the ODI's

The last pair together were the funniest commentery I ever heard. Sidhu' is like Eric Cantona with his totally off the wall home spun philosophies and wierd sayings. When he commentated with Geoff I had to shove a cushion in my mouth to stop laughing out loud.
oh
yeah u r right.
Arlott,Benaud and Navjot Singh Sidhu are really good commentators.

[SMX11FOX]

Other ideas have come to me, how about a stadium/facilities builder screen and control over ticket prices. I have always wanted to develop cricket grounds on the game but there has been no need to do it :( You could improve the training facilities and build new stands etc. The ticket price would bring attendances into play and more realism from the turnover part of the finances. You could also add sponsorship etc as well. Surely im not the only one who can think of these ideas, get on it developers! :D

[Sureshot]

I dont agree that 120 is the realistic score for T20 matches
Bcz in real in most of the matches the scores are beyond 150
And
My point is there should be more number of sixes in T20 matches
Do u agree?:rolleyes:

No, I don't agree that 120 is a realistic par score for T20 either. We have acknowledged this for 09, as we have with the ability to hit sixes.

Just going back through this thread a bit...

Budgets - We have taken note of this as an issue. It's being looked into for future versions, we've done what we can for the moment. Can't go into much more on that.

Uni teams - Good idea, but so un-practical from a resources point of view. We'd be hard pushed to find the relevant data needed to make it possible.

Pre-season fixtures - I agree, they would be useful. Some inter-team tournaments? We already have them in real life and we shall look into if this would be plausible for future versions.

I'm trying to give as helpful answers as I possibly can. Like we always do, there are limitations especially at this stage.

[Scritty]

Thanks Sureshot.

The whole short term contract thing would require a budgetting rethink.

The two would go hand in hand if you were to implement them at some point in the future. I can't see the replacement short term player contract working without a pretty big shake up in the way finances are handled.

Interestingly. I've realised that the "Broad, Cooke, Panesar" leaving scenario must highlight some shortcoming in the central contract system. i.e they must have all lost their central contracts OR the central contracts are given AFTER they are signed by a club..or some daft club has released quality players even though they are ostensibly free.

I can think of some quick ways around it logically (that would be transparent to the end user) but they all involve a bit of a "cheat".

The only "proper" way around it would seem to be an overhaul of the games finance system.

I'd be happy with the quick fix at the moment, as long as it was not obvious from a players point of view.

Perhaps, one of the clubs who came in the top 3 in the championship is just "given" the funds to buy these players, and then forced to sign them - bypassing the games own signing and team management logic.

Obviously not the users own team - that would spoil the illusion.

I'd rather they stayed in by dint of a bit of a cheat, than have good players leave the game.

Anyway, thanks for the responses Sureshot.

Looking forward to this (and other games) now :)


Paul

[habib]

Last few post on this thread are about commentators
I agree that the names mentioned are really good commentators but at the same time we should see what most of the people want as improvements in ICC?
Is have good commentators in commentry boxes one of those?

[Chris2K]

It should remain Agnew, if nothing more than to save the developers a lot of time and money having to re-record every piece of written dialogue with someone else.

[Scritty]

It should remain Agnew, if nothing more than to save the developers a lot of time and money having to re-record every piece of written dialogue with someone else.

Agreed.

New commentary is well down my personal list. (i rarely have it on)

But it may be something for the distant future.

Paul

[habib]

Hi every one
I forgot to list one more thing in the recommendations,though it is mentioned a lot in ICC forums ,is the phenomena of disappearing players.Chris should deal this particular issue more seriously as ,sometimes it really furstrates you:eek:

[habib]

Other ideas have come to me, how about a stadium/facilities builder screen and control over ticket prices. I have always wanted to develop cricket grounds on the game but there has been no need to do it :( You could improve the training facilities and build new stands etc. The ticket price would bring attendances into play and more realism from the turnover part of the finances. You could also add sponsorship etc as well. Surely im not the only one who can think of these ideas, get on it developers! :D

Your ideas are good but this is not the job of a captain.Hope others will agree!:)

[habib]

I think ,ICC new versions should also work to implement a fielding coach
and specify fielding expertiese in player profile:like part time keeper or slip fielder and so on
What are ur thoughts about the suggestion?

[Imager36]

I think that the addition of some people being better fielders and then implementing a fielding technique coach would be useful, but there are other things that should gain priority over that.

[SMX11FOX]

Your ideas are good but this is not the job of a captain.Hope others will agree!:)

Fair comment but at the end of the day the game should be called International cricket manager tbh, you appoint a captain in game :D However i do understand what you are on about, i just think ICC needs to up its game and become more complex.

[habib]

Fair comment but at the end of the day the game should be called International cricket manager tbh, you appoint a captain in game :D However i do understand what you are on about, i just think ICC needs to up its game and become more complex.

Yes you are right.Its demand of time and if ICC wants to stay in competetion its more than necessary.

[habib]

I think that the addition of some people being better fielders and then implementing a fielding technique coach would be useful, but there are other things that should gain priority over that.

Yeah surely u r right
The priorities are many other issues we have discussed before and fielding coach is just a suggestion.
:)

[habib]

Other ideas have come to me, how about a stadium/facilities builder screen and control over ticket prices. I have always wanted to develop cricket grounds on the game but there has been no need to do it :( You could improve the training facilities and build new stands etc. The ticket price would bring attendances into play and more realism from the turnover part of the finances. You could also add sponsorship etc as well. Surely im not the only one who can think of these ideas, get on it developers! :D

The game needs a lot to develope interests but the point u have raised is not so demanding.If u play this game just for this purpose better look for other cricket games with high graphics.

[Sachte]

i think ipl should be included.

[CricketRay]

I Think ICC should include a section for more records like cricket coach does, i think the engine and structure to icc is better but the record storing is better with cricket coach, if an update is released sometime later this season with the county cricket in other countries then i will be playing ICC over Cricket Coach

[SMX11FOX]

The game needs a lot to develope interests but the point u have raised is not so demanding.If u play this game just for this purpose better look for other cricket games with high graphics.

Im not particulary bothered about graphics hence why i got Wii instead of a 360/PS3 :D but it would be a nice feature.

[habib]

I Think ICC should include a section for more records like cricket coach does, i think the engine and structure to icc is better but the record storing is better with cricket coach, if an update is released sometime later this season with the county cricket in other countries then i will be playing ICC over Cricket Coach

Yuppy...I agree with u
I am so despirate to see these features
hoping 2 have these in 2009 version:)

[habib]

i think ipl should be included.

Yes
it would be a great addition and plus we will have more T 20 games ...I love it:p

[habib]

I remember that in one of my previous posts, I disagreed with the idea of a fielding coach.Because in my opinion its not the job of a captain, but last night some thing clicked in that made me 2 think that fielding coach would be a good addition even though its not a top priority. ICC's previous versions have physios, batting and bollowing coaches. All these are cricket requirements of international and top domestic leve teams and not a captain's job to train the players. So, fielding coach should also be added because now a days, in real life every team have some fielding coaches because good fielding most of the time saves many runs and provides crucial break throughs.

[SMX11FOX]

yeah just ignore the title of the game :D after the damning review from IGN i think next years effort will be vastly improved.

[wilkiburger]

I don't care if the graphics stay the same forever!

All I want is the game to open up like the Wisden, thats all, Iwant the records section to be totally user friendly and massive.

International records v each other team in each format with highest scores best bowling sortable colunms and career top hundreds. Career averages and averages for each county in each format through careers, Most 6's % of how wickets taken, I want the lot, the graphics is very low priority for me, very low, look how far champ manager came with no graphics, all you need is decent fonts.

Someone take this game by the horns and get it right!, Im fed up with writing all records down. I want top 10's for each wkt partnership v each county in each format of the game and by god when the record is broken I want the game engine to recognise it.

Come on boys you can do it!!, please!!!, having said that you missed a trick with the ashes on and the 20twenty over here, a big trick.

Good luck

[the_trademarc]

Just wanted to say I really hope they fixed the over rate problem in Test Matches. I just bowled 98 overs on Day 1, with one spinner and four quicks.

This happens all the time, having an extra 10 overs in a day, means an extra 40 runs, or 2 wickets.

Still thinking when was the last time this happened in reality, been thinking for 3 hours.

Just hoping this has been rectified.

[habib]

Just wanted to say I really hope they fixed the over rate problem in Test Matches. I just bowled 98 overs on Day 1, with one spinner and four quicks.

This happens all the time, having an extra 10 overs in a day, means an extra 40 runs, or 2 wickets.

Still thinking when was the last time this happened in reality, been thinking for 3 hours.

Just hoping this has been rectified.

Oh
I never noticed that but if you are saying then it would have been true
A big flaw in the game; I would say
Never happens in reality

[nathanbrooks]

One thing in ICC08 that really irritated me was the fact that 1. they took away the option of being able to save your team line up, as I had a different team line up for all 3 competitions. Kinda frustrating to have to change the team line-up at the start of every game.

and 2. under the bowlers match form they took away the number of runs they conceded. so now theres only a diagram with a bunch of bars that shows number of wickets taken in each innings - which really doesn't mean anything at all.

I just need to ask, why on earth would you change that? theres no reason to? just a bit frustrating for me as I'm a massive fan of the series (bought almost every title made), and was frustrated with so many unnecessary omissions.

Lastly the interface needs a massive make-over. The old one was very attractive, and now, somehow, they manage to downgrade? I don't understand that, please please please change the interface design so that it may look attractive once more. And if you cant, at least make it editable, like in previous cricket captains.

[ICClover]

One thing in ICC08 that really irritated me was the fact that 1. they took away the option of being able to save your team line up, as I had a different team line up for all 3 competitions. Kinda frustrating to have to change the team line-up at the start of every game.

and 2. under the bowlers match form they took away the number of runs they conceded. so now theres only a diagram with a bunch of bars that shows number of wickets taken in each innings - which really doesn't mean anything at all.

I just need to ask, why on earth would you change that? theres no reason to? just a bit frustrating for me as I'm a massive fan of the series (bought almost every title made), and was frustrated with so many unnecessary omissions.

Lastly the interface needs a massive make-over. The old one was very attractive, and now, somehow, they manage to downgrade? I don't understand that, please please please change the interface design so that it may look attractive once more. And if you cant, at least make it editable, like in previous cricket captains.

I am not one for complaining, but this I totally 100% agree with. It's a must to see how many runs were conceded, and to save team line-ups. Please can a mod tell us if these are returning features?

[nathanbrooks]

Thanks ICCLover,

Not meaning to complain, just expressing frustration haha :D
I'm just holding thumbs really tightly that it gets put back in 09.

[ICClover]

Thanks ICCLover,

Not meaning to complain, just expressing frustration haha :D
I'm just holding thumbs really tightly that it gets put back in 09.

I hope it is the sort of thing that if not in the game, can be patched in. Both needed. Aus or Sureshot - can you tell us, cheers.

[Scritty]

One thing in ICC08 that really irritated me was the fact that 1. they took away the option of being able to save your team line up, as I had a different team line up for all 3 competitions. Kinda frustrating to have to change the team line-up at the start of every game.

and 2. under the bowlers match form they took away the number of runs they conceded. so now theres only a diagram with a bunch of bars that shows number of wickets taken in each innings - which really doesn't mean anything at all.

I just need to ask, why on earth would you change that? theres no reason to? just a bit frustrating for me as I'm a massive fan of the series (bought almost every title made), and was frustrated with so many unnecessary omissions.

Lastly the interface needs a massive make-over. The old one was very attractive, and now, somehow, they manage to downgrade? I don't understand that, please please please change the interface design so that it may look attractive once more. And if you cant, at least make it editable, like in previous cricket captains.

Oh yes. I put the interface down to me getting a whoppee new 24' flatscreen, and needing to scale the whole thing up just to see it (800x600 looked like an afterthought stuck in the middle of all that space) But looking at it on my laptop it was a bit garish, the bas-relief seemed a bit chunky. I'm sure it seemed neater and more "professional" looking back in the 2d days.

Pre set sides. A massive and frustrating nerf Why ? I play with 4 bowlers in FC and 5 in OD, changing the order around to suit. Having to micromanage this when a simple button used to give me all the control I wanted seems a shame.

RPO...Yes. 4 for 45 ok...4 for 178 not ok. Why this nerf ? It seemed like the whole interface went "blocky" and the numbers didn't fit any more. But again vital.

Finally photos NOT COPYRIGHTED photos, just the placeholders so we can put our own in. Man this is one nerf that really gets me. So simple. Adds so much to the immersion.

So on top of the advancements....can we have these features back ?

Great post BTW..I agree with every point.
:)
Paul

[Sureshot]

Okay.

Saving line ups:

For 2009 you have an ability to select "Load Last FC team" or "Load last OD team".

Runs conceded:

This doesn't show on the graph for 09, like 08. I agree, I think it should be there, but then I'd also say that if a bowler in my XI has been expensive, I will remember it and not need it. Because invariably, I remember it being his fault for us losing!

Can't see how the lack of a place for a photo holder is a nerf, as we've never had it in the first place. Interesting thought though.

[ICClover]

Okay.

Saving line ups:

For 2009 you have an ability to select "Load Last FC team" or "Load last OD team".

Wonderful, cheers.

Runs conceded:

This doesn't show on the graph for 09, like 08. I agree, I think it should be there, but then I'd also say that if a bowler in my XI has been expensive, I will remember it and not need it. Because invariably, I remember it being his fault for us losing!

but what if you are checking 2nd XI players, or players to pick for a national team?

[nathanbrooks]

Aye this is super frustrating. Was seriously hoping they would rectify the saving team line up and bowling stats. I really do not understand why they would leave that out, its beyond me.

[Sureshot]

The runs in the bowling form chart is in discussion btw, guys.

[nathanbrooks]

The runs in the bowling form chart is in discussion btw, guys. Wow Sure shot, a million thank you's to you!

[gilly01]

its about time eh nath

[nathanbrooks]

Wow you have no idea.

[habib]

The runs in the bowling form chart is in discussion btw, guys.

Its really great because it helps to find good young players, plz add this feature in 2009

[spaga1994]

ye i just wonder what the reason for taking it out in the first place was

[habib]

Hey guys I am so bussy with my studies cant find the time to play ICC 2009
How is it?

[Liquifier]

Wonderful, cheers.



but what if you are checking 2nd XI players, or players to pick for a national team?
Absolutely it is a quick cut-to and an ultimate guide to gauge a player's performances. Like oh wow he took five wickets in 2nd team. Oh wait that was for 223 runs. Big difference compared with say 5-43. And what stuns me is the fact that this and the saved teams things actually had to be removed from the original setting, which baffles the mind really.

So here in my opinion are the changes required for this to be the game I know it can be:

1: replacement of runs conceded (in addition to wickets taken) in bowling form screen
2: ability to save and load teams (given the t20 as another format, this has become even more necessary
3: bowling strengths and weaknesses for a player (mainly for bowlers) so the bowling technique training option as more relevance and impact
4: ability to offer more than $10K above a player's asking salary (or, when you offer them the $10K over they sign for you, otherwise the computer teams get the player EVERY time
5: club records to have a separate section for One Day and T20 matches (partnerships for each wicket, highest totals and highest scores along with best bowling figures).
6: all-time records for your club adding relevance and sentiment to the retired players and all they achieved over their illustrious careers :D
7: ability to use right mouse clicker to change between tabs (this used to be in earlier versions and was brilliant and time-saving)

I can't think of any more at this point, let me know what you all think, and add to them as much or as little as you like :D

Not having a go at the team either, I absolutely adore this game and own each title (even Aus cricket captain haha) it's just that over the last 11-ish years of playing you tend to pick up one or two things haha.

Peace.

[Liquifier]

I don't care if the graphics stay the same forever!

All I want is the game to open up like the Wisden, thats all, Iwant the records section to be totally user friendly and massive.

International records v each other team in each format with highest scores best bowling sortable colunms and career top hundreds. Career averages and averages for each county in each format through careers, Most 6's % of how wickets taken, I want the lot, the graphics is very low priority for me, very low, look how far champ manager came with no graphics, all you need is decent fonts.

Someone take this game by the horns and get it right!, Im fed up with writing all records down. I want top 10's for each wkt partnership v each county in each format of the game and by god when the record is broken I want the game engine to recognise it.

Come on boys you can do it!!, please!!!, having said that you missed a trick with the ashes on and the 20twenty over here, a big trick.

Good luck
Now THIS guy is onto something. I couldn't care if the graphics were brick-men or stick-men, that is not what this is about. It is about STATISTICS. Give me them in absolute absurdity. Top ten scores in each of the 3 formats, bowling figures as the same, partnerships in all formats for each wicket. For each county you play against. Etc etc. Just absolutely saturate it. This game rules because the statistics take precedent and is for people who are obsessed with them.